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Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:33 am to WeeWee
You see it's getting colder because mid term elections are over so politicians quit blowing smoke up everyones arse. It shouldn't warm up until about a week before the run off next month.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:44 am to TigerFanatic99
quote:
A.
frickING.
SCIENTIST.
Whether or not a scientist chooses to copulate and/or is successful about actuating that choice has no bearing on the merit of their findings or opinions.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:44 am to WeeWee
Yeah climate changed in Missouri from low 70's to 30's this week in the KCMO area, not totally out of the ordinary but average would be mid to low 50's through November, I'm still waiting on this Global Warming thangy. 
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:11 am to JoeMoTiger
"The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.
In addition to long-term climate change, there are shorter term climate variations. This so-called climate variability can be represented by periodic or intermittent changes related to El Niño, La Niña, volcanic eruptions, or other changes in the Earth system.
Some scientists define climate as the average weather for a particular region and time period, usually taken over 30-years. It's really an average pattern of weather for a particular region."
Why don't some people seem to get this? The ones who discuss the weather in these types of debates make all conservatives sound ignorant and that is very frustrating.
There has been global temperature increase over the last 75 years. That is fact. The debate is over (i) the cause of the temperature change...anthropogenic (man-made CO2 influence) or naturogenic (natural cause) or a combination of causes, (ii) the effects of the temperature change on the world, and (iii) what will happen with the global temperature going forward.
The slowing of the rise in global temperatures over the last 15 years compared to the previous 15 years when there has been an increase in atmospheric CO2 levels during this time is what you should be citing to make the argument that climate change propaganda is overblown and climate change has more to do with naturogenic causes than anything.
In addition to long-term climate change, there are shorter term climate variations. This so-called climate variability can be represented by periodic or intermittent changes related to El Niño, La Niña, volcanic eruptions, or other changes in the Earth system.
Some scientists define climate as the average weather for a particular region and time period, usually taken over 30-years. It's really an average pattern of weather for a particular region."
Why don't some people seem to get this? The ones who discuss the weather in these types of debates make all conservatives sound ignorant and that is very frustrating.
There has been global temperature increase over the last 75 years. That is fact. The debate is over (i) the cause of the temperature change...anthropogenic (man-made CO2 influence) or naturogenic (natural cause) or a combination of causes, (ii) the effects of the temperature change on the world, and (iii) what will happen with the global temperature going forward.
The slowing of the rise in global temperatures over the last 15 years compared to the previous 15 years when there has been an increase in atmospheric CO2 levels during this time is what you should be citing to make the argument that climate change propaganda is overblown and climate change has more to do with naturogenic causes than anything.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:15 am to WeeWee
Supposed to be in the low 40's here this weekend. Sucks, we need snow.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:17 am to NOFOX
quote:Because averages are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.
Some scientists define climate as the average weather for a particular region and time period, usually taken over 30-years. It's really an average pattern of weather for a particular region."
Why don't some people seem to get this?
Climate isn't the average of weather. Climate is the integral of weather.
quote:Aye. That's what it's all about. Looking "smarter" than your friends.
The ones who discuss the weather in these types of debates make all conservatives sound ignorant and that is very frustrating.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:19 am to Choctaw
quote:
i'm gonna wait to hear what Tuba has to say. he seems to be an expert on this topic
ditto.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am to TigerFanatic99
quote:
You sound a little sarcastic. The dude's a SCIENTIST.
A.
frickING.
SCIENTIST.
Hey now.
Anybody who thinks there's no science to pushing that mop around has never seen Tuba do it.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:23 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
Because averages are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.
Ohh yeah, here's the guy who loves to use big words in order the bluff people into thinking he has a clue.
quote:
Climate is the integral of weather.
Case in point.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:28 am to AUbused
quote:
Climate is the integral of weather.
Case in point.
Should we go over how poor averages really are as a statistic?
Or maybe we can go over why you find the comment "climate is the integral of weather" so funny.
I got all kinds of time, waiting for a model to finish a 20k step run....
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:32 am to AUbused
quote:
Ohh yeah, here's the guy who loves to use big words in order the bluff people into thinking he has a clue.
Sometimes I like to use big words that I don't know the meaning of to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:38 am to NOFOX
quote:
There has been global temperature increase over the last 75 years.
Check yourself chicken little, 75 yrs is such a short window there's no way it could prove any man made contribution to global warming. I heard years ago when this Global Warming thing really took off (right after we were told we're entering an Ice Age in the early 70's) a scientist on a talk radio show say that a single forest fire prior to mans ability to put them out would burn for weeks if not months and the CO2 from those fires were many times greater than all the fossil fuels burnt in any given year and this was happening around the globe. Now add in volcanic activity which also has varying periods of increased activity around the globe along with solar activity which is probably has the most influential effect on climate and man ends up being way down on the causes of any climate change. Does man contribute? sure but not to the extent that we're being led to believe.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:43 am to WeeWee
quote:
Oh, so as long as I am a hypocrit in favor of a leftist policy the I am correct, but if I am a hypocrit in favor of a rightist policy then I am wrong. Got it.
Yes, you got it.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:54 am to CptBengal
quote:I'd really like to hear his take on this.
Or maybe we can go over why you find the comment "climate is the integral of weather" so funny.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:54 am to JoeMoTiger
quote:
There has been global temperature increase over the last 75 years. Check yourself chicken little, 75 yrs is such a short window there's no way it could prove any man made contribution to global warming.
Correct. And if we want to go back to the industrial revolution the temp increase is only 1 degree F in the last 120 years. That's totally within natural fluctuations.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:57 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
Because averages are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.
Climate isn't the average of weather. Climate is the integral of weather.
So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns?
The whole "it's cold out so there must not be global warming/climate change" schtick is just as bad as the liberal morons who blame a hot day on global warming. It conrtibutes nothing.
quote:
Aye. That's what it's all about. Looking "smarter" than your friends.
Yeah not about my looks or appearance of intelligence, but appreciate the condescending comment.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:57 am to AUbused
quote:Not a "big word" concept at all. It's a sophomore level math concept.
Case in point.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:01 pm to NOFOX
quote:
Climate isn't the average of weather. Climate is the integral of weather.
you take that statement and get this....
quote:
So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns?
What year undergrad are you, and what school....this is fricking pathetic.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:02 pm to NOFOX
quote:No. Nor did I say that they were.
So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns?
quote:
The whole "it's cold out so there must not be global warming/climate change" schtick is just as bad as the liberal morons who blame a hot day on global warming. It conrtibutes nothing.
ok. Chime in on those threads too. quote:You're welcome
Yeah not about my looks or appearance of intelligence, but appreciate the condescending comment.
but seriously, it wasn't meant to be condescending. I'm sorry if you took it that way. 
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