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re: ISIS and Taliban have declared Jihad against themselves
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:27 am to Placebeaux
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:27 am to Placebeaux
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ISIS and Taliban have declared Jihad against themselves
Navy Seals movie
reminds me of the scene in the charlie sheen movie about Navy Seals going to Beirut and the guide explains all the different jihad groups there fighting each other and everyone.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 9:29 am
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:02 am to TX Tiger
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So, after 9/11 our goal was to win friends abroad?
I can say with some certainty that after 9/11 there was next to nothing we could have done over there that would have been "swiftly rejected at home."
And yet 14 years later (and still counting) we're still over there.
You would literally have to be borderline retarded to still buy this steaming pile of propaganda.
Well, you can't destroy the sources of ISIS militarily, unless you brutally repress the Sunni people of the region. You can destroy the organization, but you'll just have a new organization in a few years.
OF COURSE you need allies in the region. "You would literally have to be borderline retarded" not to understand this basic fact of geopolitics.
And OF COURSE Americans would not be willing to brutally repress the population. And again: what would be the point?? You can't bring "democracy" to a region by depopulating it, and if we don't want to bring "democracy" there, why are we there?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:03 am to fishfighter
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I still say Nuke the area and in 50 years go in and set up shop for the oil. Been saying this for over 35 years when I was sent there.
Good thing no one listens to you.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:30 am to Scream4LSU
quote:Lemme guess, you believe 19 radical Muslims took by surprise the greatest and most well-funded military and defense systems in the history of man.
You can manufacture all the conspiracy theories you want.
And you accuse me of manufacturing conspiracy theories.
quote:Difference is, (thanks to 9/11) the plans I mentioned are now being carried out.
Military plan/strategies are created all the time, it means absolutely nothing. Guarantee there are plans to invade Canada out there as well.
quote:We have, and I suspect will continue to install pro-American leadership in these countries. It's been our history to do so.
If you think we have installed pro american leadership in these countries that would benefit us in terms of access to natural resources
quote:Are you saying you disagree with American foreign policy?
We may have forgotten that no matter who we put in place that they will always be a problem controlling the people unless like Saddam you employ some "population control". And by that I mean torture and chemically attacking large populations. Yeah that's much better.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:36 am to Bayou Sam
quote:No, but you can insist that our government stop using our tax dollars to fund it.
Well, you can't destroy the sources of ISIS militarily
quote:Not without the funding source of a much greater power.
You can destroy the organization, but you'll just have a new organization in a few years.
quote:Who is saying otherwise?
OF COURSE you need allies in the region. "You would literally have to be borderline retarded" not to understand this basic fact of geopolitics.
quote:We have for decades. Ignorance is not an excuse.
And OF COURSE Americans would not be willing to brutally repress the population.
quote:You are making my point.
if we don't want to bring "democracy" there, why are we there?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:37 am to TX Tiger
quote:I think and hope that we've realized that this just won't workout. That region doesn't want our governance.
We have, and I suspect will continue to install pro-American leadership in these countries. It's been our history to do so.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:45 am to JBeam
quote:I'm pretty sure the powers that control this country don't give two shits what the people of that region want.
We have, and I suspect will continue to install pro-American leadership in these countries. It's been our history to do so.
I think and hope that we've realized that this just won't workout. That region doesn't want our governance.
They have barely shown any consideration to what we want.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:21 am to TT9
quote:
Losers are the people that give a frog's fatass about shite that has been going on forever..
It's not gonna change.
Pro-slavery?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:21 am to fishfighter
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I still say Nuke the area and in 50 years go in and set up shop for the oil. Been saying this for over 35 years when I was sent there.
Why do people say stupid shite like that?
So genius, after you nuke it - you think there wouldn't be retribution from other countries? Does America control whether a country should live or die? In your opinion they clearly should dictate that.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:33 am to TX Tiger
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I think and hope that we've realized that this just won't workout. That region doesn't want our governance.
Our Government don't know how to think and how's that "hope" thing working for us?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:40 pm to Wtodd
quote:Not sure why this is directed at me, you'll never catch me referencing government with a conscience.
I think and hope that we've realized that this just won't workout. That region doesn't want our governance.
Our Government don't know how to think and how's that "hope" thing working for us?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:42 pm to TX Tiger
It wasn't directed at you; I just used your post to quote something.
Don't you mean Government with intelligence?
quote:
you'll never catch me referencing government with a conscience
Don't you mean Government with intelligence?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:52 pm to Wtodd
quote:I dunno. I really believe things are done and decisions are made for the benefit of the elite. Politicians/government knows exactly what it's doing.
Don't you mean Government with intelligence?
It only appears stupid to us common folk because not only does it have no benefit for us, but usually ends up costing us.
That's just how government works.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:55 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Politicians/government knows exactly what it's doing.
You're exactly right! I was being facetious with the intelligent comment.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:58 pm to East Coast Band
quote:And some religions have even evolved from barbaric times and no longer kill people of differing faiths.
I was sort of referring just to the ISIS portion of Islam. But yes, religions have always been a good reason to kill people and start wars .
Posted on 4/21/15 at 1:09 pm to Placebeaux
I hope they both win
Posted on 4/21/15 at 1:16 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 4/21/15 at 1:22 pm to TX Tiger
ISIS kills all the Talibans.
Iran, Iraq, Saudi and US bombers kill all the ISIS
We nuke Iran and Syria.
All is better
Iran, Iraq, Saudi and US bombers kill all the ISIS
We nuke Iran and Syria.
All is better
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/21/15 at 2:42 pm to TX Tiger
Put the uniform on and go over there then
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:10 pm to lsucoonass
No thanks. I'd rather not die so that some rich frick can make his next fortune.
But thanks for asking.
But thanks for asking.
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