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re: A look back at every draft under Loomis & Payton
Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:28 pm to xxKylexx
Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:28 pm to xxKylexx
Compare it to the New England Patriots:
2006:
1st: Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota (cut)
2nd: Chad Jackson WR Florida (cut)
3rd: David Thomas TE Texas (cut)
4th: Garrett Milles TE Tulsa (cut)
4th: Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5th: Ryan O'Callaghan OT California (cut)
6th: Jeremy Mincey DE Florida (cut)
6th: Dan Stevenson OG Notre Dame (cut)
6th: Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska (cut)
7th: Willie Andrews DB Baylor (cut)
1/10 players
2007:
1st: Brandon Meriweather S Miami (cut)
4th: Kareem Brown DE Miami (cut)
5th: Clint Oldenburg OT Colorado State (cut)
6th: Justin Rogers LB SMU (cut)
6th: Mike Richardson CB Notre Dame (cut)
6th: Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State (cut)
6th: Corey Hilliard OG OK State (cut)
7th: Oscar Lua LB USC (cut)
8th: Mike Elgin C Iowa (cut)
0/9 players
2008:
1st: Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee
2nd: Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado (cut)
3rd: Shawn Crable LB Michigan (cut)
3rd: Kevin O'Connell QB SD State (cut)
4th: Jonathan Wilhite CB Auburn (cut)
5th: Matthew Slater S UCLA
6th: Bo Rudd LB Nebraska (cut)
2/7 players
2009:
2nd: Patrick Chung S Oregon
2nd: Ron Brace DT Boston College (cut)
2nd: Darius Butler CB Connecticut (cut)
2nd: Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston
3rd: Brandon Tate WR North Carolina (cut)
3rd: Tyrone McKenzie LB South Florida (cut)
4th: Rich Ohmberger OG Penn State (cut)
5th: George Bussey OG Louisville (cut)
6th: Jake Ingram LS Hawaii (cut)
6th: Myron Pryor DT Kentucky (cut)
7th: Julian Edelman WR Kent State
7th: Darryl Richard DT Georgia Tech (cut)
3/12 players
2010:
1st: Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
2nd: Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
2nd: Jermaine Cunningham LB Florida (cut)
2nd: Brandon Spikes LB Florida (cut)
3rd: Taylor Price WR Ohio (cut)
4th: Aaron Hernandez TE Florida (cut)
5th: Zoltan Mesko P Michigan (cut)
6th: Ted Larsen C NC State (cut)
7th: Thomas Welch OT Vanderbilt (cut)
7th: Brandon Deaderick DE Alabama (cut)
7th: Kade Weston DT Georgia (cut)
7th: Zac Robinson QB OK State (cut)
2/12 players
2011:
1st: Nate Solder OT Colorado
2nd: Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia (cut)
2nd: Shane Vereen RB California (cut)
3rd: Stevan Ridley RB LSU (cut)
3rd: Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas (cut)
5th: Marcus Cannon G TCU
5th: Lee Smith TE Marshall (cut)
6th: Markell Carter OLB Central Arkansas (cut)
7th: Malcolm Williams CB TCU (cut)
2/9 players
2012:
1st: Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
1st: Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama
2nd: Tavon Wilson S Illinois
3rd: Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
6th: Nate Ebner DB Ohio State
7th: Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
7th: Jeremy Ebert WR Northwestern (cut)
6/7 players
2013:
2nd: Jamie Collins LB Southern Miss
2nd: Aaron Dobson WR Marshall
3rd: Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
3rd: Duron Harmon S Rutgers
4th: Josh Boyce WR TCU
7th: Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
7th: Steve Beauharnais LB Rutgers (cut)
6/7 players
2014:
1st: Dominique Easley DT Florida
2nd: Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois
4th: Bryan Stork C Florida
4th: James Whtie RB Wisconsin
4th: Carmeron Fleming OT Stanford
6th: Jon Halapio OG Florida (cut)
6th: Zach Moore DE Concordia-St. Paul
6th: Jemea Thomas CB Georgia Tech (cut)
7th: Jeremy Gallon WR Michigan (cut)
6/9 players
2006:
1st: Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota (cut)
2nd: Chad Jackson WR Florida (cut)
3rd: David Thomas TE Texas (cut)
4th: Garrett Milles TE Tulsa (cut)
4th: Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5th: Ryan O'Callaghan OT California (cut)
6th: Jeremy Mincey DE Florida (cut)
6th: Dan Stevenson OG Notre Dame (cut)
6th: Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska (cut)
7th: Willie Andrews DB Baylor (cut)
1/10 players
2007:
1st: Brandon Meriweather S Miami (cut)
4th: Kareem Brown DE Miami (cut)
5th: Clint Oldenburg OT Colorado State (cut)
6th: Justin Rogers LB SMU (cut)
6th: Mike Richardson CB Notre Dame (cut)
6th: Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State (cut)
6th: Corey Hilliard OG OK State (cut)
7th: Oscar Lua LB USC (cut)
8th: Mike Elgin C Iowa (cut)
0/9 players
2008:
1st: Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee
2nd: Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado (cut)
3rd: Shawn Crable LB Michigan (cut)
3rd: Kevin O'Connell QB SD State (cut)
4th: Jonathan Wilhite CB Auburn (cut)
5th: Matthew Slater S UCLA
6th: Bo Rudd LB Nebraska (cut)
2/7 players
2009:
2nd: Patrick Chung S Oregon
2nd: Ron Brace DT Boston College (cut)
2nd: Darius Butler CB Connecticut (cut)
2nd: Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston
3rd: Brandon Tate WR North Carolina (cut)
3rd: Tyrone McKenzie LB South Florida (cut)
4th: Rich Ohmberger OG Penn State (cut)
5th: George Bussey OG Louisville (cut)
6th: Jake Ingram LS Hawaii (cut)
6th: Myron Pryor DT Kentucky (cut)
7th: Julian Edelman WR Kent State
7th: Darryl Richard DT Georgia Tech (cut)
3/12 players
2010:
1st: Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
2nd: Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
2nd: Jermaine Cunningham LB Florida (cut)
2nd: Brandon Spikes LB Florida (cut)
3rd: Taylor Price WR Ohio (cut)
4th: Aaron Hernandez TE Florida (cut)
5th: Zoltan Mesko P Michigan (cut)
6th: Ted Larsen C NC State (cut)
7th: Thomas Welch OT Vanderbilt (cut)
7th: Brandon Deaderick DE Alabama (cut)
7th: Kade Weston DT Georgia (cut)
7th: Zac Robinson QB OK State (cut)
2/12 players
2011:
1st: Nate Solder OT Colorado
2nd: Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia (cut)
2nd: Shane Vereen RB California (cut)
3rd: Stevan Ridley RB LSU (cut)
3rd: Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas (cut)
5th: Marcus Cannon G TCU
5th: Lee Smith TE Marshall (cut)
6th: Markell Carter OLB Central Arkansas (cut)
7th: Malcolm Williams CB TCU (cut)
2/9 players
2012:
1st: Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
1st: Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama
2nd: Tavon Wilson S Illinois
3rd: Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
6th: Nate Ebner DB Ohio State
7th: Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
7th: Jeremy Ebert WR Northwestern (cut)
6/7 players
2013:
2nd: Jamie Collins LB Southern Miss
2nd: Aaron Dobson WR Marshall
3rd: Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
3rd: Duron Harmon S Rutgers
4th: Josh Boyce WR TCU
7th: Michael Buchanan DE Illinois
7th: Steve Beauharnais LB Rutgers (cut)
6/7 players
2014:
1st: Dominique Easley DT Florida
2nd: Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois
4th: Bryan Stork C Florida
4th: James Whtie RB Wisconsin
4th: Carmeron Fleming OT Stanford
6th: Jon Halapio OG Florida (cut)
6th: Zach Moore DE Concordia-St. Paul
6th: Jemea Thomas CB Georgia Tech (cut)
7th: Jeremy Gallon WR Michigan (cut)
6/9 players
Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:36 pm to htran90
That's a big part of the reason they're consistently in the hunt for another ring. Additionally, the Hoodie has no problem running players down the road when their salary demands exceed their value to the team.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:08 pm to adono
One reason why new Emgland has a lot more picks is they are willing to trade down an stay put an let the players fall to them an not get hung up on one player.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:11 pm to Henten
They trade ageing players for picks, players that they think can be upgraded, and picks that are close to their original while picking up an additional.
You can give them credit, but you have to look at it too...they've missed on A LOT of early rounds as well.
You can give them credit, but you have to look at it too...they've missed on A LOT of early rounds as well.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:29 pm to htran90
yea but the big difference is they have actually hit on defensive players.
and i know you didn't start with the "cut" labeling, but a guy like Brandon Meriweather who played 4 seasons and made 2 pro bowls with NE is kinda dumb.
and i know you didn't start with the "cut" labeling, but a guy like Brandon Meriweather who played 4 seasons and made 2 pro bowls with NE is kinda dumb.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:33 pm to Henten
quote:
One reason why new Emgland has a lot more picks is they are willing to trade down an stay put an let the players fall to them an not get hung up on one player.
Your best post yet!
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:36 pm to htran90
quote:
they've missed on A LOT of early rounds as well.
That's like picking hairs off a gnat's arse. The bottom line is they still have 18 of the 23 players they've drafted since 2012. I'll take those numbers any day!
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:52 pm to King George
It is called continuing the conversation, you should learn how to do it some time.
If you were capable of following the thread, you would have noticed my response was to a post about judging the strength of prior drafts based on the success of the players being able to start or still with the team after being drafted. I simply elaborated about how majority of those defensive starters came form the first 3 rounds, and then implied lack of success in drafting good players may have to do with the fact that most defensive players drafted came from rounds in which not much is typically expected of the player.
If you were capable of following the thread, you would have noticed my response was to a post about judging the strength of prior drafts based on the success of the players being able to start or still with the team after being drafted. I simply elaborated about how majority of those defensive starters came form the first 3 rounds, and then implied lack of success in drafting good players may have to do with the fact that most defensive players drafted came from rounds in which not much is typically expected of the player.
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