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Could the Pels be on a similar growth track as GSW?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:01 am
It may be way too early to know but the similarities to Golden State are not that far off.
This team's core is still very young and hasn't even come close to reaching their primes. It wasn't long ago that Ryan Anderson was basically considered the veteran leader on the team.
Dell has not gotten enough credit for the midseason moves he made to sure up the bench and offer us some decent options for the 2nd unit.
When this team plays D, we can be very good and beat any team. Dell has slowly put together a roster that has defenders on both the perimeter and paint, 3 point shooters, playmakers, and the fortunate luck of having a dominant superstar fall in his lap. We are slowly looking at the makings of a complete team that has much more growing to do.
Let's not forget that GSW was a 6th seed the past two seasons before ascending into the #1 seed this season. One has to believe that over the next two seasons, AD will continue his growth and make an MVP like jump as Curry has done this year. That alone may very well be what will take this team to the top of the Western conference.
This team's core is still very young and hasn't even come close to reaching their primes. It wasn't long ago that Ryan Anderson was basically considered the veteran leader on the team.
Dell has not gotten enough credit for the midseason moves he made to sure up the bench and offer us some decent options for the 2nd unit.
When this team plays D, we can be very good and beat any team. Dell has slowly put together a roster that has defenders on both the perimeter and paint, 3 point shooters, playmakers, and the fortunate luck of having a dominant superstar fall in his lap. We are slowly looking at the makings of a complete team that has much more growing to do.
Let's not forget that GSW was a 6th seed the past two seasons before ascending into the #1 seed this season. One has to believe that over the next two seasons, AD will continue his growth and make an MVP like jump as Curry has done this year. That alone may very well be what will take this team to the top of the Western conference.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 10:02 am
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:17 am to 504Voodoo
AD will continue to grow, the issue is can monty's rotations win?
2013-2014 GSW: 12th ortg (107.5), 4th drtg (102.6)
2014-2015 GSW: 2nd ortg (111.6), 1st drtg (101.4)
Biggest changes were coaching and draymond green.
We're still missing that solid starter at the SF position. QPon is rather undersized, but he's a solid 20-25mpg guy. Cunningham is more of a PF than SF. Tyreke is not the solution there either.
If we want to grow, AD and health of Jrue/EG will play a factor, but getting pieces that fit properly would do us some good. Trading Ryno @ the 2016 deadline if he bounces back might be able to grab a solid SF. He's a great guy, but if he can't knock down shots, he's useless. Even if he can knock down 3's at his career average, his defense just won't cut it.
2013-2014 GSW: 12th ortg (107.5), 4th drtg (102.6)
2014-2015 GSW: 2nd ortg (111.6), 1st drtg (101.4)
Biggest changes were coaching and draymond green.
We're still missing that solid starter at the SF position. QPon is rather undersized, but he's a solid 20-25mpg guy. Cunningham is more of a PF than SF. Tyreke is not the solution there either.
If we want to grow, AD and health of Jrue/EG will play a factor, but getting pieces that fit properly would do us some good. Trading Ryno @ the 2016 deadline if he bounces back might be able to grab a solid SF. He's a great guy, but if he can't knock down shots, he's useless. Even if he can knock down 3's at his career average, his defense just won't cut it.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:23 am to htran90
I totally agree with all of this. I am willing to let Dante walk this off season if it can somehow turn into a 3 & D small forward on a mid-level exception. Our coaching situation is rather interesting as Month really reminds me of Mark Jackson. We must remember that it was widely considered that Jackson's isolation and redundant high pick & roll offense (Monty practically runs the same offense) was holding GSW back. The moment Kerr came in with a hoard of great assistants was the moment they took off.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:26 am to 504Voodoo
We may not have to look too far for a Draymond as AD is a better version of him defensively.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:04 pm to 504Voodoo
On that track, we would get rid of Monty, the players coach, after next season and hire an Xs and Os guy
Not a bad comparison otherwise though
Not a bad comparison otherwise though
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:22 pm to 504Voodoo
intersestingly, by roster construction, GSW & NOP are polar opposites. GSW drafted all four of their most used players by minutes played (curry, green, thompson, barnes)
Posted on 4/16/15 at 3:53 pm to cgrand
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intersestingly, by roster construction, GSW & NOP are polar opposites. GSW drafted all four of their most used players by minutes played (curry, green, thompson, barnes)
Ziller on GSW
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Over the past five years, the Warriors have overpaid fringe stars, drafted exceptionally well while never picking higher than No. 6, taken huge gambles in trades, free agency and on the sidelines and have generally been impatient with the status quo. And that's gotten them to 57 wins and counting.
You wouldn't use the Warriors' path as a classic case study in NBA Rebuilding 101, because they violated a few of the so-called rules of team creation. They overpaid in a cap-limited salary system. They made hair-trigger decisions in a league where patience is rewarded.
But perhaps that's a problem with so many rebuilds that go awry: the ones that go strictly by the book rarely work. Building an NBA team is more art than science. That may yet be something the analytic-minded Hinkie learns the hard way.
I would amend that last paragraph to "any rebuild rarely works."
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:48 pm to corndeaux
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would amend that last paragraph to "any rebuild rarely works."
True. It really comes down to if you have an exceptional scouting department. I won't say it is luck, but these teams are putting all their stock in whether or not a 19-22 year old will become a star.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:59 pm to corndeaux
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But perhaps that's a problem with so many rebuilds that go awry: the ones that go strictly by the book rarely work. Building an NBA team is more art than science. That may yet be something the analytic-minded Hinkie learns the hard way.
I would amend that last paragraph to "any rebuild rarely works."
You've heard me say it before. Whatever theory a franchise uses, and no matter how smart the FO is, you gotta be lucky.
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