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How will Anderson be used tonight?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:49 am
He matches up terribly on defense against both Z-Bo and Gasol (and Koufos for that matter). I like the threat of his shooting on offense but it just hasn't been there this season aside from a few games. Will Monty have him in there with 7 minutes to go in the first quarter like he did last night?
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:50 am to pleading the fifth
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:56 am to pleading the fifth
quote:he will be used to offer more ammunition to the fire monty crowd
How will Anderson be used tonight?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:16 am to Fearthehat0307
Pels beat the best team in the league, still bitching. smh
Anderson was a +13 Net Rating last night. Asik was a -11. Bogut was a +16. Seems like Monty made the right call.
Personally, I'd try to force Bogut to guard Davis or Anderson rather than roam in the paint off Asik, if I think my defense can hold up (news flash: Davis/Anderson usually do outperform their opponents).
Same thing tonight; Gasol and ZBo can't guard Anderson at the arc. That doesn't mean you ride Anderson all night of course. But it's a good matchup for the Pels. Davis/Anderson v ZBo/Gasol is a large reason why the Pels have been Memphis kryptonite the past few years.
Anderson was a +13 Net Rating last night. Asik was a -11. Bogut was a +16. Seems like Monty made the right call.
Personally, I'd try to force Bogut to guard Davis or Anderson rather than roam in the paint off Asik, if I think my defense can hold up (news flash: Davis/Anderson usually do outperform their opponents).
Same thing tonight; Gasol and ZBo can't guard Anderson at the arc. That doesn't mean you ride Anderson all night of course. But it's a good matchup for the Pels. Davis/Anderson v ZBo/Gasol is a large reason why the Pels have been Memphis kryptonite the past few years.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:17 am to corndeaux
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Anderson was a +13 Net Rating last night. Asik was a -11. Bogut was a +16. Seems like Monty made the right call.
That's why I made my Props to Monty thread. I still think it was the wrong call but the result says it was the right move.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:33 am to TigerinATL
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Gasol and ZBo can't guard Anderson at the arc.
Anderson cant guard Gasol and Zbo in the post
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:33 am to TigerinATL
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still think it was the wrong call
That's fine. I disagree, but I understand. If you can get Bogut out of the paint or on the bench, it's worth the defensive risk. That doesn't mean you ride or die with Anderson though.
ETA: Davis neutralizes the Draymond at the 5 lineup and gives the Pels a fighting chance while going small.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:34 am to Smedium27
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Anderson cant guard Gasol and Zbo in the post
Duh. But it's much easier to team defend a post player than a 3PT threat.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:39 am to corndeaux
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Duh. But it's much easier to team defend a post player than a 3PT threat.
That all depends, if we double up on the post it leaves a player open somewhere. IMO the problem with the grizzles is when they are doubled at the post they do not have a good 3pt shooting team to counter the double in the paint
Which is why they want the game to go slow, their offensive rating is not that good but their defense is awesome. Mainly beingi they force teams to slow it down
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:39 am to corndeaux
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Personally, I'd try to force Bogut to guard Davis or Anderson rather than roam in the paint off Asik, if I think my defense can hold up (news flash: Davis/Anderson usually do outperform their opponents).
How many times did Bogus block Asik last night? Anderson actually defended Bogus fairly well in limited opportunities last night. He also rebounded and boxed him out. The one rebound I remember Bogus getting over Anderson was a clearly foul that wasn't called.
Anderson has his issues, but he was not a negative last night. The two late turnovers were tough, but one of them was a combination of a lazy pass by Ryno and lazy effort by Evans to get himself open.
ETA - I forgot that it wasn't actually a turnover, but it lead to an awful situation. The fact that Evans walked the ball up the court with 9 seconds on the clock had me shaking my head.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:41 am to corndeaux
Bogut doesn't have the offensive prowess that Gasol/ZBo does. I think Anderson has been used well the past two games matching up on Bogut/Lee and Aldridge/Kaman. 31 minutes last night and 18 the prior game against tougher match ups. It will be interesting to see what Monty does tonight.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:44 am to Smedium27
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IMO the problem with the grizzles is when they are doubled at the post they do not have a good 3pt shooting team to counter the double in the paint
Exactly. Tony Allen can be largely ignored. I'm not sure why they ever play Calathes. And Udrih isn't a 3PT threat. Green is a little better, but I'd let him shoot from 3 if ZBo/Gasol are murdering Anderson down low.
Like GI points out, Anderson has very real issues, but he's still a tall, biggish body. In space, he's a tire fire. In tight quarters, he can at least be a human traffic cone.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:44 am to pleading the fifth
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I think Anderson has been used well the past two games matching up on Bogut/Lee and Aldridge/Kaman.
You serious? He single-handedly lost that Blazers game. That was literally the worst I've seen an NBA player be. They went at him like it was 2001 Shaq playing against high schoolers.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:45 am to pleading the fifth
After every Griz game this year the Bird Writes puts out stats about how horribly Gasol played with Asik on him and how he went off when anyone else defended him. Asik is averaging almost 26 MPG vs. the Griz and he had 30 last time. Anderson shouldn't get as much run tonight as he did last night.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:51 am to TigerinATL
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Anderson shouldn't get as much run tonight as he did last night.
Warriors lack true post scoring which is a reason why Anderson played so much, it was a good matchup for him yesterday
But today every possession where Gasol or Zbo have Anderson down in the post..... I will close my eyes and pray a squirrel runs on the court to reset the play
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:57 am to pleading the fifth
I've been following the Anderson hate around here, and in the games I've been to, I just don't get it. Last night I really watched Anderson closely all night, and I still don't get it. He did get off to a slow start shooting, but he got hot pretty quickly and was crucial to keeping us in the game. When he was guarding Bogut one on one, the dude was working his arse off and you could see it in his face. He did have two bad plays late in the 4th, but right before that he hit back to back baskets that, again, were crucial. From what I've seen in person, he isn't even a guy I'd consider ditching - unless you're talking about a serious upgrade at the position in some blockbuster trade.
It seems like there's also a lot of Cole love and Reke hate, and of course I understand hero ball complex with Reke. But Reke sure can drive to the basket. Cole looks like a boy amongst men when he sees the paint. He just looks afraid in the lane and can't retreat quickly enough - unless he stays to miss a 10 ft. jumper, of course.
ETA: While I'm defending Anderson's effort, in the 4th when Asik was on the bench it seems like every Warriors basket was either a layup or a dunk. Though it looked like when Anderson was in he was playing more man on Bogut rather than patroling the paint.
It seems like there's also a lot of Cole love and Reke hate, and of course I understand hero ball complex with Reke. But Reke sure can drive to the basket. Cole looks like a boy amongst men when he sees the paint. He just looks afraid in the lane and can't retreat quickly enough - unless he stays to miss a 10 ft. jumper, of course.
ETA: While I'm defending Anderson's effort, in the 4th when Asik was on the bench it seems like every Warriors basket was either a layup or a dunk. Though it looked like when Anderson was in he was playing more man on Bogut rather than patroling the paint.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:09 am to 911Moto
What's not to get? He is unbelievably bad at defense. It's an incredible liability. He's 467th out of 472 players in defensive real plus minus. Last year, he was 70th out of 75 power forwards. They guys behind him played around 20 minutes a game or so. He played 36. You just can't have somebody that bad on defense on the court in the NBA for that many minutes and expect your defense to not totally suck.
Defense is equally as important as offense. He's not a below average defensive player like a lot of people seem to think. He is one of the worst, if not the worst, defender in the league. Certainly the worst playing meaningful minutes on a competitive team. It's just too hard to have our offensive efficiency high enough to make up for the points he inevitably bleeds, even with the nice spacing he provides.
Defense is equally as important as offense. He's not a below average defensive player like a lot of people seem to think. He is one of the worst, if not the worst, defender in the league. Certainly the worst playing meaningful minutes on a competitive team. It's just too hard to have our offensive efficiency high enough to make up for the points he inevitably bleeds, even with the nice spacing he provides.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:09 am to TheSexecutioner
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That was literally the worst I've seen an NBA player be.
After 2 years of Austin Rivers, I'm convinced that you do not know what literally means.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:09 am to corndeaux
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Tony Allen can be largely ignored.
?? I thought Tony Allen was out
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:13 am to 911Moto
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It seems like there's also a lot of Cole love and Reke hate, and of course I understand hero ball complex with Reke. But Reke sure can drive to the basket.
Reke plays in binary. He may show up and look like first team All-NBA one night, then come back and leave you thinking Jimmer might be a better option the next. He's certainly gotten more consistent lately. That said, when we are up late and the foul game starts, he should not touch the ball. I just don't trust him at the line when it matters.
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