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re: USC's Pat Haden, citing gay son, won't attend meeting in Indiana

Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:36 am to
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:36 am to
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You just ignore that these groups of people are actually discrimintaed against, seems convenient and odd, not sure what the reason may be for that.
No I don't, and I don't discriminate against them. Maybe they wouldn't be discriminated against if they didn't make such a big deal of being queer, and would just be a person. That's how I treat them.

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So you put your job above what you deem to be doing right by your family?
My religious/political views do not affect my job. If they did I wouldn't be able to deal with the rough crowd around me. Mr. Haden is free to make a public statement, as he is obviously doing, but if he can't make the meeting to fulfill his obligation, maybe he should be replaced. His little sideline interruption should have taken care of that last year.

Political correctness is out of control, mainly by pantywaists who have never sacrificed a damn thing for the right to bitch.
Just an opinion of a FREE AMERICAN.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85009 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:45 am to
I don't understand all the fuss. The free-market will take care of this. If you advocate for the rights of private businesses, you also must advocate for the rights of private individuals to do as they please, including protest. You can be upset with the ignorance of those protesting, but part of the free market is the ability to successfully educate people on the issue at hand. Obviously Indiana fricked that up.

If Pat Haden doesn't want to go, great. If a business doesn't want to make a cake with two brides or two grooms, great.

The law simply gives businesses the power to use religion as a defense in court. It certainly doesn't guarantee that they will win. Ho hum, carry on folks.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85009 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:47 am to
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And last, isn't this a playoff meeting? What does that have to do with USCw?


Boom.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66950 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:50 am to
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There is an almost an exact same law in federal courts, and in 30 other states.


"Almost" is a big key here FWIW.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110932 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:21 am to
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If his job and family collide to where he is unable to handle his responsibility to one, he should leave the one that is least important to him.
Why? Maybe his bosses at USC are behind him and support his decision?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110932 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:24 am to
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No I don't, and I don't discriminate against them. Maybe they wouldn't be discriminated against if they didn't make such a big deal of being queer, and would just be a person. That's how I treat them.
You said no you don't, then 1 sentence later did it again.

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Mr. Haden is free to make a public statement, as he is obviously doing, but if he can't make the meeting to fulfill his obligation, maybe he should be replaced
Maybe his employer should make that decision, and maybe they support him, so then what?
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:25 am to
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USC Athletic Director Pat Haden will not attend a College Football Playoff meeting in Indianapolis this week because of a new Indiana law that has been called anti-gay.


Who frickn cares!
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:50 am to
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You said no you don't, then 1 sentence later did it again

They are discriminated against, but not by me . . . can't argue with a Lib. Flame on!
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:58 am to
Ridiculous..it's his damn job, gay son or not..that solidarity talk is bs

This is same dbag who flipped on football ref in the middle of a game.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2608 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:59 am to
I hope he has quit driving also. Since most of our oil comes from muslim countries that adhere to Sharia law, I assume he is protesting that too.
Big Bill Clinton signed the same federal law into effect in 1993 and nobody cried. ACLU even endorsed it.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:01 am to
Kentucky should skip the final 4 in Indianapolis to protest.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:01 am to
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This is how probably 99% of the people feel.

We are all too self-absorbed to worry about purposefully holding someone down.

Sure, you'll always have the 1% outliers that want to screw you over b/c you have long hair, or you're a different color, or you drive a sweet Vette, but you can't legislate intelligence.

The shrill, whiny, voices of those too lazy to make it in the world on their own merits can get lost after awhile.

Some numbnuts doesn't want to sell you cupcakes? Go to the other 100 bakeries that will.


Too much common sense. We have too many drama queens these days.

I have no problem publicly "shaming" drama queens. Relatively small percentage of the population but extremely loud, obnoxious and self indulgent. I'm blown away that with all the serious problems we have in this nation, we're hung up on whether someone can get a "gay" cake.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110932 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:05 am to
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Ridiculous..it's his damn job, gay son or not
so you think his job is more important his family. Makes sense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:09 am to
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so you think his job is more important his family. Makes sense.


Was his son going to Indiana?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110932 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:14 am to
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Was his son going to Indiana?
I don't know, the answer is probably no to your irrelevant question.

Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7722 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:24 am to
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There is an almost an exact same law in federal courts, and in 30 other states.





Ok continue? Where exactly is the problem on difference?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:25 am to
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I don't know, the answer is probably no to your irrelevant question.


Sure it it's relevant. It will have no affect at all on his son.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110932 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:29 am to
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Sure it it's relevant. It will have no affect at all on his son
So he or anyone out there shouldn't care about something or take a stand for something they believe in because it doesn't directly affect their family?

That's what you're saying? Interesting.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 11:35 am
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19307 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:35 am to
As a baby boomer who was a Republican back in the early 70's, I am certainly no far left wing radical. But even I understand that this issue goes way beyond someone having the ability to buy a gay cupcake. Much like blacks demonstrating against having to sit in the back of a bus, drink from a separate water fountain, the big picture is what this is about. I find it amusing that white male politicians...for the most part...feel that they are qualified to define what is & what is not discrimination for blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, Jews, etc. The first group has probably had, literally, no form of discrimination shoved down their throats in their entire life. Whereas, the latter group has lived with it, day after day year after year their entire lives.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:38 am to
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I find it amusing that white male politicians...for the most part...feel that they are qualified to define what is & what is not discrimination for blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, Jews, etc.


Should we have a governing body for every demographic group so no one feels left out?
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