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re: USC's Pat Haden, citing gay son, won't attend meeting in Indiana

Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:31 pm to
Look at the replies in this thread.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:32 pm to
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Personally, I'm agnostic to all of this.


You use this term, but I don't think you know what it means.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:32 pm to
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the people you don't want to serve.

Unless they're causing a scene or hurting your business I really don't see the reasoning behind this law.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:33 pm to
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thats so nice how proud he is that his son likes taking dick


I'm sure his son also enjoys taking fat white loads to the face. Hell, I bet sometimes after he gets an anal creampie his partner slurps it out. He must be so proud.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:35 pm to
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thats so nice how proud he is that his son likes taking dick

So you won't ever be proud of your daughter?


Man I can't wait until baby boomers die off so we can stop having moron politicians who cater to their feeble old minds (see: Jindal, Bobby).
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 10:39 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:35 pm to
Wow
Posted by tigermeat
Member since Jan 2005
3009 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:36 pm to
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It merely gives you a chance to prove a defense in court and try to disprove the government's claim they have a compelling interest in forcing you to serve the people you don't want to serve.

My god there are so many stupid people that don't know what an RFRA is or the fact that 19 other states and the federal government has one too.



How dare you cloud this issue with facts.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65667 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:36 pm to
His son was a QB like his dad.

The son outed another gay player when he saw a long-lost lover across the line of scrimmage and pointed at him and yelled "Blew Fifty-two!"

Or so I heard.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:37 pm to
Sabi, please read the law and let me know if I should be morally outraged or still just be pissed at Haden for keeping Namath on the bench in that playoff game.

TIA.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:38 pm to
Will do.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21788 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:40 pm to
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Unless they're causing a scene or hurting your business I really don't see the reasoning behind this law.


First of all, people are focusing one one small example of what the entire law is about. Secondly, it simply gives a person the right to defend themselves in court using religion as a defense (among other things). The jury would still make up their own mind.....

This law doesn't allow for any more or less discrimination than any preceding law.

If you were a Catholic Church and an die-hard atheist knocked on your door and wanted to attend your service, you don't think they should be able to turn him away?
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:41 pm to
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Man I can't wait until baby boomers die off so we can stop having moron politicians who cater to their feeble old minds (see: Jindal, Bobby).
Agreed
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:42 pm to
Pat hates freedom

I support gay marriage but I also support Indiana's law. Freedom to do,as you please is a wonderful thing.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:42 pm to
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Unless they're causing a scene or hurting your business I really don't see the reasoning behind this law.


Does the business belong to you?

Do you believe that the transactions of commerce is a right?

Who are you to tell a fellow private citizen what he can do with his property and can't do with it and who are you tell someone that they have to serve someone they don't want to seve?



It's amazing how many people really don't understand the sacred value of private property.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:44 pm to
Sorry about your diner in 1960s alabama.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:46 pm to
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religion as a defense (

Which is fricking stupid, yeah my God says such and such is bad so I'm going to refuse service. There is no need for this bill. If you're a big enough a-hole to refuse service to someone who shares different beliefs then maybe you shouldn't have opened shop

quote:

If you were a Catholic Church and an die-hard atheist knocked on your door and wanted to attend your service, you don't think they should be able to turn him away?
Is he causing a disturbance? How do you know he's an atheist? If a person isn't causing a disturbance then why kick that person out?

I honestly can't find a good reason for this bill other then to give douchebags a legal reason to be a such
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:46 pm to
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If you were a Catholic Church and an die-hard atheist knocked on your door and wanted to attend your service, you don't think they should be able to turn him away?


Unless they are there to cause a ruckus, a true Christian would let them in. There's this whole thing about not judging people and stuff that church often preaches about.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

If you were a Catholic Church and an die-hard atheist knocked on your door and wanted to attend your service, you don't think they should be able to turn him away?


What?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:49 pm to
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I support gay marriage but I also support Indiana's law. Freedom to do,as you please is a wonderful thing.


Agreed.

Marriage is a civil right and gays as two consentng adults should have that right and I believe the supreme court will rule as such.

But that's as far as I go as I don't believe that you should be able to get the force of the state to enforce legislated morality on privately owned businesses. That's anti freedom and anti liberty.

Real freedom includes people doing shite we don't like. Period.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:50 pm to
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My money is gays and gay rights advocates will lose this battle long term.


I hope you right. Phuque them wanting to put all their business out in the street. I think I'll send a few thousand to Indiana for standing up for the rights of the business owners. It's their businesses and the government should stay the hell out of it. There are plenty of businesses that would be glad to take money from queers.
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