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re: Jay Z's New Streaming Service's Keynote: Biggest Douche or Surreal Skit Show?

Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to
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one great thing about primarily relying on EDM for music is that i have countless podcasts/set that i can download for free, 100% legally



livesets is the way to go

most dj's don't make studio albums anyway

EDM is such a terrible name.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to
Jay-Z has proved he understands the business side of things. I give him credit for that.

Having said that. The last time I spent money for anything to do with music was in 1999.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:55 am to
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i can't support theft



Thats how Porter Robinson got his start

torrenting music for his sets
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:56 am to
I haven't purchased an album since 2003-ish

I love Spotify

And I go to 8-10 concerts a year.

That's what music is worth to me
Posted by LSU Wayne
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:56 am to
if they pull their content off services like Spotify in order to be exclusive to something like this, wouldn't that simply generate a lot more illegal downloading of their material instead of what their intention is? I would imagine a lot of people would opt to not pay for an additional service and say F-it, and start torrenting.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:57 am to
I tip my cap to him for diversifying and trying to capture more money but he's not getting any of mine. Not one penny.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:00 am to
Whether you like the people or not, TIDAL does offer a higher quality. That is not something anyone can debate. Its's been out for quite some time, and the reviews are pretty good. CD quality music through a streaming service is pretty impressive if it actually works. The price needs to come down surely, but that happens with more funding in the early stages to ease the costs while people move over.

I'm not telling you to ditch Spotify (because frankly, I won't), but don't let some bullshite PR stunt send you all into a frenzy and ignore that the product does have advantages to what you're currently listening to. This service was around before this keynote.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:09 am to
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if they pull their content off services like Spotify in order to be exclusive to something like this, wouldn't that simply generate a lot more illegal downloading of their material instead of what their intention is? I would imagine a lot of people would opt to not pay for an additional service and say F-it, and start torrenting


the entertainment industry has seemed unwilling to understand this concept for a while. I love spotify for its convenience and value, but if it were gone tomorrow or skyrocketed in price, I'd be able to cut it out without much of a problem. I'd simply find another alternative.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:10 am to
i prefer electronica but EDM is easier to type
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am to
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Whether you like the people or not, TIDAL does offer a higher quality. That is not something anyone can debate. Its's been out for quite some time, and the reviews are pretty good. CD quality music through a streaming service is pretty impressive if it actually works.


What bit rate is the high quality music?

How is that going to affect mobile data plans?

Blind testing shows that people can't discern between 256 kbps and lossless audio.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am to
I have no issues with the sound quality on spotify, so if that's what tidal wants to hang its hat on they're fricked.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am to
EDM sounds too much like BDSM or something sexual like that
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:13 am to
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I have no issues with the sound quality on spotify, so if that's what tidal wants to hang its hat on they're fricked.



yeah wtf.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:15 am to
Luckily I already own all of the Kanye and Jay Z albums I like.

Sorry Hov.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:17 am to
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Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158764 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:18 am to
I mean I guess you have some people audiophiles who truly give a damn, but they're in the minority.

So TIDAL will dominate the top 20 music, audiophile demo
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73146 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:20 am to
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audiophiles
is Gaston the dude who spends all that money on diamond HDMI cables and only listens to vinyl?
Posted by tigerbaittrick
Member since Jan 2010
7265 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:20 am to
If this is the new thing artists are going to do, then I'll have to dust off my old torrent accounts.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:21 am to
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the entertainment industry has seemed unwilling to understand this concept for a while. I love spotify for its convenience and value, but if it were gone tomorrow or skyrocketed in price, I'd be able to cut it out without much of a problem. I'd simply find another alternative.


The music industry priced themselves out once before. Appears as if they are poised to do it again. They are greatly overvaluing their product.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:22 am to
Most services (such as Spotify) use 320kbps. TIDAL HiFi streams at 1411kbps. They also offer a service at the same quality as Spotify at $9.99.

quote:

Blind testing shows that people can't discern between 256 kbps and lossless audio.


That's largely dependent on the audio being listened to and the hardware being used. To the trained ear, there's a difference, but you're right that most people won't hear the difference. There's less being knocked off of the track itself, though, and to the audiophile with high end headphones, there's a difference. You're hearing the track as it was intended to be heard with a fuller range of highs, lows, and whatever else may be lost in Vorbis schemes.

To be clear, I'm not claiming to be a trained ear or audiophile, but I do believe that we shouldn't just settle on a low bitrate and not ever progress just because people don't think they need it. A lot of people claimed they didn't see any difference between HD and standard definition television, and they didn't need it. If we can get FLAC/ALAC streaming as the norm, it's a plus.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:25 am
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