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re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 9 "Pimento"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:34 am to SUB
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:34 am to SUB
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Did anyone else notice that the business card in the urinal during the theme song read "Better Call Saul"? Not sure if it means anything, but I thought it was interesting because it may foreshadow his transformation into Sau
They've had a lot of Saul references in the credits so far.
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It's not often that you hear TV producers proudly describe an aspect of their show as looking terrible — and using much less polite language than that — but then it's not often you have TV producers both as talented and idiosyncratic as "Better Call Saul" creators Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould.
The aspect in question is the show's main title sequence (embedded above), featuring various images from Jimmy McGill's future life as Saul Goodman, all of it presented with the same terrible image quality of early VHS or public access television. Late last week, I spoke first with Gilligan and Gould — who, I should say, had trouble controlling the laughter at times when using a certain profane adjective to describe the picture quality of those credits — and then with "Saul" assistant editor Curtis Thurber, who put together the different title sequences, about what they wanted and what was necessary to put them together.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:40 am to MikeyFL
quote:No question. Hamlin comes across as this extremely arrogant, self-important douche, which he most definitely is. But when it's revealed at the end why he's been so hard on Jimmy, it makes you realize that he wasn't quite as bad of a guy as it seemed. Then there was the way that he felt bad about chewing out Kim; it really humanized him, and made me not dislike him so much. I think he realizes what a badass lawyer Jimmy really is, and how much of an asset he could be to HHM.
What's interesting now is how we should view Hamlin. On a rewatch, does he become a fairly sympathetic character?
quote:Yeah, they set that up nicely. I was glad to see him re-emerge on the show, because I just love his character. For being a total tPOS, he's certainly likable. I think it's because he's level-headed, and rational enough to know when he's wrong.
Also, I think there's much more to Nacho Varga...
I have to say, it was hard to disagree with why Chuck said that Jimmy wasn't a real lawyer. He even said himself that Jimmy had to know that he was right. But still, you don't do that to your own flesh & blood. And part of me wonders if Chuck feels threatened by Jimmy as an attorney. He might be afraid that Jimmy would waltz into HHM and elevate himself very quickly, thus stealing Chuck's thunder. Maybe it pains him that maybe, just maybe, Jimmy might be a better natural talent than him.
At any rate, Michael McKean certainly has a knack for playing a slimeball. My favorite role of his is Milo on
"Airheads".
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:46 am to musick
good find, now I just want to know if that female hand dropping the cig butt into the balance belongs to Kim.
To the guy you replied to, at this point anybody who needs foreshadowing to tell them Jimmy might transform into Saul needs to put down the vapo-bong.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:46 am to Grit-Eating Shin
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I have to say, it was hard to disagree with why Chuck said that Jimmy wasn't a real lawyer. He even said himself that Jimmy had to know that he was right. But still, you don't do that to your own flesh & blood
Agree. He might have gotten his education from some shady online school, but he is still your family. The same family member that is basically babysitting you because of your 'medical condition'.
I was really starting to like Chuck but that all just got destroyed last night.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:58 am to Grit-Eating Shin
good points..
Agree, I was imagining the convo between him and Kim when he said "stop"... "close the door", went something like,
"first, what I'm about to tell you doesn't leave this room"
".. but I'm not the one shutting Jimmy out of HHM"
University of Samoa online.. yup some law schools have practically no entrance requirements and that certainly isn't doing the profession any favors.
He certainly brushed Jimmy off fast enough when he announced his win on the restraining order, but the line about never ending "softballs" was probably correct too, it's hard to gauge what Chucks real intentions are. I was also left wondering if his psychosomatic condition was not likely a product of his lying to Jimmy all this time and letting Hamlin take the fall in Jimmy's eyes about being shut out of the company as a lawyer.
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Then there was the way that he felt bad about chewing out Kim; it really humanized him, and made me not dislike him so much. I think he realizes what a badass lawyer Jimmy really is, and how much of an asset he could be to HHM.
Agree, I was imagining the convo between him and Kim when he said "stop"... "close the door", went something like,
"first, what I'm about to tell you doesn't leave this room"
".. but I'm not the one shutting Jimmy out of HHM"
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I have to say, it was hard to disagree with why Chuck said that Jimmy wasn't a real lawyer. He even said himself that Jimmy had to know that he was right. But still, you don't do that to your own flesh & blood.
University of Samoa online..
yup some law schools have practically no entrance requirements and that certainly isn't doing the profession any favors. quote:
. He might be afraid that Jimmy would waltz into HHM and elevate himself very quickly, thus stealing Chuck's thunder. Maybe it pains him that maybe, just maybe, Jimmy might be a better natural talent than him.
He certainly brushed Jimmy off fast enough when he announced his win on the restraining order, but the line about never ending "softballs" was probably correct too, it's hard to gauge what Chucks real intentions are. I was also left wondering if his psychosomatic condition was not likely a product of his lying to Jimmy all this time and letting Hamlin take the fall in Jimmy's eyes about being shut out of the company as a lawyer.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:10 pm to Jones
quote:And that's not to mention that he can still wheel & deal in the courtroom like nobody's business. The whole class action lawsuit was his doing. He was the one sharp enough to know that something fricky was going on at Sandpiper Cove. He was the one who lawfully obtained the shredded documents. But Chuck just couldn't stand to watch his "less-qualified" brother succeed because Jimmy didn't dedicate his life to the legal practice for all those years.
He might have gotten his education from some shady online school, but he is still your family.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:15 pm to Jagd Tiger
quote:Yeah, I didn't realize at first what had happened, or what he was telling Kim (I thought that they were going to make us wait until the next episode, honestly). But once it's been revealed, it not only assures you that Howard has a heart, but that he's sympathetic towards Jimmy. Otherwise, why would he care? He's the boss, and is used to looking like the a-hole. But even he knows how fricked-up it is what Chuck is doing to Jimmy.
Agree, I was imagining the convo between him and Kim when he said "stop"... "close the door", went something like,
"first, what I'm about to tell you doesn't leave this room"
".. but I'm not the one shutting Jimmy out of HHM"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:21 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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He's the boss, and is used to looking like the a-hole. But even he knows how fricked-up it is what Chuck is doing to Jimmy.
It's pretty fricked up what Chuck is doing to Howard too...he lets Jimmy say horrible things to Howard while he sits there and even defends Jimmy, what a sick SOB
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:25 pm to craigbiggio
Damn. Good point. Never thought about it like that. And Howard just takes it in stride.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:49 pm to musick
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I just saw the actor that voices Trevor in gta on guest star credits
I knew that guy looked and sounded familiar! I was thinking he looked like Trevor, and the other guy looked like Lester.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:53 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Damn. Good point. Never thought about it like that. And Howard just takes it in stride.
I actually enjoyed Howard's ability to stand his ground, even though it was at Jimmy's expense.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:01 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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part of me wonders if Chuck feels threatened by Jimmy as an attorney. He might be afraid that Jimmy would waltz into HHM and elevate himself very quickly, thus stealing Chuck's thunder
I won't say that can't be the case, but seems unlikely. Jimmy was obviously morally vacant in his early years. In and outta trouble, jail, etc. HHM seems like a pretty prestigious firm where he has built a reputation as a formidable legal mind. Im sure hes beyond conflicted about his brothers newfound ambitions
Not saying that justifies his actions at all, but its easy to jump to the defense of lovable loser jimmy at this point
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:12 pm to Jagd Tiger
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I was also left wondering if his psychosomatic condition was not likely a product of his lying to Jimmy all this time and letting Hamlin take the fall in Jimmy's eyes about being shut out of the company as a lawyer.
Good point.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:29 pm to musick
"Slippin Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun."
Ouch.
Ouch.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:33 pm to Backinthe615
I fully realize that chuck has reasons to be skeptical of jimmy's past. But I mean recently he's seemingly been on the straight and narrow, and even helped build this massive case from the ground up by himself.
Sure his american samoa degree and no legal experience (while he was in the mail room) would lead to doubt, but I'm surprised his own brother would be this shitty to him in the present day.
And despite Jimmy's sense of pride, he'd be dumb not to take the deal. $20K up front could help get his own practice off the ground and out of the nail salon. Plus the major payout on the backend after the case. I realize he desperately wants to prove himself as a legitimate lawyer, but taking the deal would be the first step in doing that.
Sure his american samoa degree and no legal experience (while he was in the mail room) would lead to doubt, but I'm surprised his own brother would be this shitty to him in the present day.
And despite Jimmy's sense of pride, he'd be dumb not to take the deal. $20K up front could help get his own practice off the ground and out of the nail salon. Plus the major payout on the backend after the case. I realize he desperately wants to prove himself as a legitimate lawyer, but taking the deal would be the first step in doing that.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:38 pm to PortCityTiger24
Yall think chucks guilt over not giving jimmy a job turned him into a laughing stock hypochondriac nutbag? these better call saul threads are gonna be AWESOME next season
these better call saul threads are gonna be AWESOME next season Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:45 pm to WG_Dawg
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he's seemingly been on the straight and narrow, and even helped build this massive case from the ground up by himself.
He bumbled his way into it. hes hungry. I mean, he crawled into a dumpster full of shitty grandpa diapers
The entire case is out of his league and he doesnt even recognize that. Can you imagine the shenanigans of him clowning around HHM for a couple years while a bunch of veteran sharks grind out a $20mm class action suit
Just playing devils advocate here
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:52 pm to Chef Leppard
I agree, he's not in the same league as these pros.
But chuck acts like he's the same ol' mailroom loser. Jimmy has shown that he at LEAST has some legal chops about him and is a tireless worker. I'm not saying chuck owes him anything or he deserves to be a partner, but chuck is really acting shitty towards him.
But chuck acts like he's the same ol' mailroom loser. Jimmy has shown that he at LEAST has some legal chops about him and is a tireless worker. I'm not saying chuck owes him anything or he deserves to be a partner, but chuck is really acting shitty towards him.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:38 pm to Chef Leppard
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Yall think chucks guilt over not giving jimmy a job turned him into a laughing stock hypochondriac nutbag?
No I read that wrong
I thought he was saying that Chuck has been playing up his "condition". I don't think at all that guilt drove him there.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:43 pm to WG_Dawg
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I agree, he's not in the same league as these pros.
But chuck acts like he's the same ol' mailroom loser. Jimmy has shown that he at LEAST has some legal chops about him and is a tireless worker. I'm not saying chuck owes him anything or he deserves to be a partner, but chuck is really acting shitty towards him.
On the one hand, he might well be a top notch lawyer for the firm if given the chance. Heck, throughout our history lot of the great lawyers didn't graduate and some didn't even attend, law school. (They did what they called "reading the law" as an apprentice with lawyer or law firm).
But on the other hand, in today's world, the big firms tend to hire exclusively from the top level of graduates and I'm pretty sure only from traditional reputable law schools. So it is not unusual for HH&M not to hire Jimmy.
On a different note, I did like the scene where Jimmy was confronting Chuck for making the call to Hamlin and he threw in the line about how the cell phone must have been "blasting into his brain" through his ear or something like that. Made me think that he is not that far away from playing some Saul-like hard ball, including maybe even driving his brother back off the rocker if need be.
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