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re: If steve nash was black, would he have 2 mvps?

Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:56 pm to
Yes
Jake Brigance
Carl Lee Hailey
Shel311

No
Nonetheless
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Yes
Jake Brigance
Carl Lee Hailey
Shel311
Technically, i'm not a YES to the OP, just to saying PHO woulda went from 29 to 62 wins if he were black.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Would the Suns have gone from 29 wins in 04 to 62 wins in 05 if Nash was black?


Yes. So what?

Would voters have still felt the same about nash's performance if he wasnt white? Thats the question
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Yes. So what?


He is the reason they went from the lotto to the best record in the league and he had great stats. That's why he won MVP.

America hates Canada so he had that working against him.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:08 pm to
What about the next season he won the mvp?

I asked about both mvps
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:10 pm to
If LeBron James was white and his name was Larry James... how many MVP's would he have won?
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:16 pm to
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What about the next season he won the mvp?

I asked about both mvps


Let's walk through logic here. Rather than did he win b/c he was white, how about how was more deserving?

1st MVP--clearly Shaq was an equal candidate. Did Shaq not win b/c he was black?
If you answer yes, then why did he win a MVP earlier in his career?

2nd MVP--I don't think anyone was close. Maybe Bron, maybe Dirk. Did Dirk not win b/c he was black? Oh wait. Did Bron not win b/c he was black?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:20 pm to
What a terrible thread
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:24 pm to
Kobe Bryant should have been your 2006 MVP.

First player to average over 35 PPG since MJ in 1988. 28 PER. Led the Lakers to 45 wins with a ragtag roster consisting of Lamar Odom and a bunch of slaw (Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Von Wafer etc)

- Scored 81 vs Toronto (most since Wilt over 40 years earlier)

- Outscored Dallas 62-61 in three quarters by himself.

- Four straight 50+ point games (first since Wilt)

- averaged 44 PPG in the month of January

- Bryant had 27 40+ point games

And he did this to Nash the MVP

Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:36 pm to
People get so worked up over race
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:39 pm to
A player on a team who wins only 45 games should never be MVP.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:57 pm to
Larry James. The NBA's MVP 11 years running.

This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:00 pm to
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A player on a team who wins only 45 games should never be MVP.


That's dumb. That Lakers team would not have won 20 games without Kobe that year.

The Suns would've still been a playoff team without Nash.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:03 pm to
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t's a nice change of pace from the 3,000 black hatred threads on here every day.


Where are the black hatred threads?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

- averaged 44 PPG in the month of January


Why is that relevant?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Kobe Bryant should have been your 2006 MVP.


Shaq had a better case the year before, not sure I would have Kobe in the top 3 that season.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:13 pm to
Are you guys looking at the right years for Shaq? By 05 and 06 he was in serious decline and putting up the worst numbers of his career.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34458 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:09 pm to
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I love nash But i heard the question posed yesterday by Lebatard, and i had never considered it before
that's a shocker. Here's the standard Lebatard segment:

Race race race race
Race race race race
Lebron

Race race race
Miami Heat
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34458 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Where are the black hatred threads?


The OT.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:13 pm to
No, black guys never win MVP in the NBA.....
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