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If steve nash was black, would he have 2 mvps?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:26 pm
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:28 pm to Nonetheless
Prolly not. Almost impossible for a black guy to win MVP in the NBA
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:29 pm to Nonetheless
Steve Nash is a weird situation. His numbers were very inflated in the PHX offense (more possessions), but the high tempo offenses rarely have players with so many assists because they spread the ball around so much. He also was shooting so well. But Shaq did get screwed.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:29 pm to lsupride87
No, but if Shaq/Kobe were white they'd have more than one
(assuming white Shaq hit FTs)
(assuming white Shaq hit FTs)
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:30 pm to Nonetheless
You must not have been around when Nash won his MVPs. Because if you were, then this wouldn't be a question.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:30 pm to Nonetheless
I don't care about the racial question, but I do know it will be similar if James Harden wins MVP this year: eliminated by the second round.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:33 pm to Nonetheless
it's still bullshite that Kidd didn't win the MVP in the 2001-02 season
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:33 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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You must not have been around when Nash won his MVPs. Because if you were, then this wouldn't be a question.
Since 1977, only one mvp winner has scored less than 20 ppg; steve nash, twice
I think its a legit question
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:34 pm to Nonetheless
his first one should have gone to Shaq. Shaq was getting the current CP3 treatment then--been so good for so long, that you start getting overlooked in MVP talk. Even then, Shaq barely lost to Nash.
No doubt the 05-06 MVP was Nash's. He as insane and went 50-40-90.
No doubt the 05-06 MVP was Nash's. He as insane and went 50-40-90.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:You're technically correct, for sure.
His numbers were very inflated in the PHX offense (more possessions),
But people used to talk about D'antoni's system, but I think we now see that Nash made D'antoni more than the other way around IMO.
People always bring up the 2 MVPs compared to Shaq's 1, and sure that is absurd. But in doing so, it definitely underrates just how great Nash was. Ask for a list of top 5 shooters ever, and I'm guessing Nash isn't on very many of them, and he may be the best shooter ever, certainly a solid case for #1, r at least 2 or 3.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:43 pm to shel311
I love nash
But i heard the question posed yesterday by Lebatard, and i had never considered it before
But i heard the question posed yesterday by Lebatard, and i had never considered it before
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:44 pm to shel311
I think D'Antoni needs a decent PG to run his offense. Nash was definitely elite. But D'Antoni never had a decent one after him. Chris Duhon was putting up some crazy games in New York, but he wasn't consistent because he sucks.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:45 pm to Nonetheless
That's a nice shiny hook for StrongSafety.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:46 pm to Nonetheless
Rose's MVP is more questionable
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:48 pm to Jcorye1
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That's a nice shiny hook for StrongSafety.
Throw him a bone....it's a nice change of pace from the 3,000 black hatred threads on here every day. Like a nice iced coffee after 10 years of hot coffee.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:50 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:It's probably equal due to Shaq and Nash.
Rose's MVP is more questionable
But I also think Nash's greatness in those 2 seasons is a lot closer to on par as DRose during his MVP season than most others probably think it is.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:51 pm to Nonetheless
Would the Suns have gone from 29 wins in 04 to 62 wins in 05 if Nash was black?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:53 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Mark me down for yes on this one!!!
Would the Suns have gone from 29 wins in 04 to 62 wins in 05 if Nash was black?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:55 pm to Nonetheless
Steve Nash is African by birth so he is grandfathered in.
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