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Isn't Craig Victor a big man?

Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:41 am
Posted by william45
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:41 am
put this on recruiting board and got nothin. so is victor a big man i mean he is 6 foot 9 according to 247sports.com. everybody is saying we need malone to step up for next year but what am i missing
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:42 am to
Sure

He won't be able to play until Jan, though
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:43 am to
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He won't be able to play until Jan, though


What ever became of that waiver he was applying for?
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:45 am to
Pretty sure a ruling hasn't been made
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:46 am to
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He won't be able to play until Jan, though


He is very hopeful he will win his petition to the NCAA to start playing at beginning of next season.

Victor is one of the biggest parts of next year's team. Will likely be the starting center and has brought a ton of aggressiveness to practices.

He was a 5 star recruit out of high school that got buried behind some really impressive PF's at Arizona. Still, he should be a huge help.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 10:48 am
Posted by william45
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:46 am to
I know that (thought it was december)
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:47 am to
Will be able to really provide a presence down low this team was lacking other than Mickey's shot blocking presence. Trying to get him a waiver so he will be eligible immediately instead of having to wait until semester ends.

Between him and the development of Elbert Robinson, that should soften the blow if both Mickey and Martin declare for NBA.

With Simmons this team can go big and small with all the guards as well, with more minutes to come off the bench. I also expect Epps to have a similar progression that Quarterman had.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:49 am to
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With Simmons this team can go big and small with all the guards as well, with more minutes to come off the bench. I also expect Epps to have a similar progression that Quarterman had.


I don't think that's quite fair.

Love the idea of Epps becoming a bigger player for us next year, but normal players don't make leaps like Q did last season to this season. I'd like to see more of a contribution for sure, but Q has been one of our best players for stretches of this season.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:54 am to
Victor is as big help, but the reason why people are saying 1 out of Robinson III, Malone, Epps or Bridgewater needs to step up is in the case of losing both Mickey and Martin we aren't stuck with what we have this year which would only be 2 viable forwards in Simmons and Victor. If one of those 4 step up, it would give us a solid rotation guy. If we return Mickey then we would have a very comfortable front court rotation so nobody has to play 35 minutes a game.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:56 am to
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I also expect Epps to have a similar progression that Quarterman had.


You might want to tone it down A LOT on that expectation. Epps certainly should play more next year but I cant ever remember going from a freshman to sophomore season like Quarterman did. It was almost miracle work.
Posted by craig8sm
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:06 am to
Malone has improved this season. Problem is he was way out of his element last season. I do see him having a little more physical presence this year and learning to move his feet and hands more. I'm hopeful ERIII will be in better condition to contribute in 15/16. And Bridgewater played bigger in the post than his 6'5" length.

But it would have been nice to snag Tyler Davis

edited: to remove "a lot"
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:43 am
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:08 am to
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Malone has improved a lot this season.

Has he? I mean, I guess he's done a better job of just standing there and not instantly getting 3-4 fouls. Still laughably bad offensively.
Posted by specchaser
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:11 am to
SOS, I posted a ? on the RB, but again is LSU looking at any other bigs? JUCO? transfer? seems like if M and M both leave we need one more big body that can play the 4 or 5.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:11 am to
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Malone has improved a lot this season


I'd say a little

He still cant rebound, which is infuriating for a 7 footer
He still fouls too often playing defense (better than last year)
He still is zero offensive threat and makes bad decisions with the basketball (pass up easy dunk/layup for a stupid pass)
He still is a 2 steps slower than anyone else on the court

The only thing he has improved on is fouling less playing defense, but it's still pretty bad
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by craig8sm
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:12 am to
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Epps certainly should play more next year but I cant ever remember going from a freshman to sophomore season like Quarterman did. It was almost miracle work.


Too very different situations, but last season I could see QMan had the talent, he just looked overwhemled at the jump to the college level. He looked like he was thinking too much, and this season he plays a lot more relaxed and with much more confidence. This level of performance has always been there under the surface. He just had to relax and trust that he belonged on the court.

Epps to me has a smooth shot but his over all game isn't near as polished. He will have to elevate his defense to stay on the floor imo.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:20 am
Posted by craig8sm
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:14 am to
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Has he? I mean, I guess he's done a better job of just standing there and not instantly getting 3-4 fouls. Still laughably bad offensively.


Yes he has. Last year you could tell he came up in a system where bigs were not physical and he was pushed all over the floor. This season he does a better job of fighting down low and playing physical. Both Malone and ERIII get into foul trouble because they aren't used to the physical play and they defend flat footed and don't move their feet in the post. their hands are doing most of the defensing and thus drawing fouls. I'm not saying he's becoming a starting center, but he's made improvements in the areas he struggled in last season.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:20 am
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:24 am to
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Malone has improved a lot this season.


Im not bashing the kid but this just isnt true.
Posted by craig8sm
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:25 am to
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I'd say a little

He still cant rebound, which is infuriating for a 7 footer
He still fouls too often playing defense (better than last year)
He still is zero offensive threat and makes bad decisions with the basketball (pass up easy dunk/layup for a stupid pass)
He still is a 2 steps slower than anyone else on the court

The only thing he has improved on is fouling less playing defense, but it's still pretty bad


I pretty much agree with this, and will say it's all a product of his not playing in a system the required the big's to play physical.

Imo his offense was better last season but he's got more offensive weapons on the floor with his this season.

He is what he is, and maybe it should be a knock on the recruiting and not so much him.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:28 am to
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Yes he has.

Agree to disagree. I'd say he's improved A LITTLE, namely in not racking up 3-4 fouls within 5 minutes. He still can't rebound, still plays relatively bad defense, still horrible offensively, still looks lost completely, still way slower than everyone. I'm sorry, but I fail to see how he's improved "a lot". Maybe it's just semantics. I hate to bash him and I think he has decent upside, but I don't think we've seen much improvement at all at this point.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:32 am
Posted by lsumatt
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:31 am to
I may be in the minority, but I think Malone has the potential to improve a lot and be a strong starter his senior year if he sticks around. I think he is a decent 3 point shooter and that hasn't been visible this year (he shot over 40% last year and had nice touch. The fact that he continues to try them this year must mean JJ trusts him). If Malone (a 7 footer) becomes a 3 point threat, it could be dangerous.


He lacks confidence on the offensive end which hopefully can be fixed. He could also stand to gain 30 lbs.
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