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The Cavaliers Should Sign and Trade Love in the Offseason.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:05 am
The Cavs should play the season out with Love, win or lose in the playoffs, then in the offseason try to sign and trade Kevin Love to LA for their first round draft pick. That pick would be a lottery pick. The Cavs could essentially replace the first pick "loss" of Andrew Wiggins with a potential Jahlil Okafor, Karl Anthony-Towns or Willie Cauley-Stein. I would take that. Pair Mozgov and Thompson with one of those three with Lebron and Kyrie.... 
Not hating on Love, but the experiment simply hasnt worked (he doesnt even play in the 4th quater anymore). If i am GM, i would try to make this happen!
Not hating on Love, but the experiment simply hasnt worked (he doesnt even play in the 4th quater anymore). If i am GM, i would try to make this happen!This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:07 am
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:08 am to Buckeye Backer
100% agree. Only guy on the team that looks like he doesn't want to be there. He shoots for a low percentage, rebounds are down, and he pouts. If he signs elsewhere, I assume they will have plenty of cap room to sign someone?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:09 am to Mr. Wayne
Or just sign Aldridge.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:09 am to Buckeye Backer
No one is going to give up a top 3 pick for fricking Kevin Love 
As a Cavs fan, you have watched this season right? They should trade him and take what they can get but it won't be a top 3 pick.
They fricked up the Wiggins/Love trade on a monumental scale. IMO it will go down as the worst trade in modern day basketball, especially if Love bolts via fre agency this offseason.
As a Cavs fan, you have watched this season right? They should trade him and take what they can get but it won't be a top 3 pick.
They fricked up the Wiggins/Love trade on a monumental scale. IMO it will go down as the worst trade in modern day basketball, especially if Love bolts via fre agency this offseason.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:14 am to Tigerfan56
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They fricked up the Wiggins/Love trade on a monumental scale. IMO it will go down as the worst trade in modern day basketball, especially if Love bolts via fre agency this offseason
Not if the Cavs win the NBA title. Kobe Bryant will be in "win now" mode when he comes back. He will want veterans. Love is a great player and it is known that Love has always loved the thought of going home and being a Laker. He just doesnt fit in with this team. Like i said, it simply hasnt worked. Andrew Wiggins is good, but lets not act like he is the next legend.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:16 am to Tigerfan56
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They fricked up the Wiggins/Love trade on a monumental scale. IMO it will go down as the worst trade in modern day basketball, especially if Love bolts via fre agency this offseason.
Also, the Cavs can sign Love to a max deal and then trade him. So love would get the money AND where he wants to play.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:17 am to Tigerfan56
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No one is going to give up a top 3 pick for fricking Kevin Love
Didn't the Cavs do this last year??
Love doesn't suck. He will be a better player than the 3rd pick of the draft this year. It's another case of a PF getting shite on after teaming up with Lebron. They use Love like he is Ryan Anderson.
He was overrated before going to Cleveland, sure. Now he is pretty damn underrated, at least by the tards on this board.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:19 am to PortCityTiger24
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Love doesn't suck. He will be a better player than the 3rd pick of the draft this year. It's another case of a PF getting shite on after teaming up with Lebron. They use Love like he is Ryan Anderson.
He was overrated before going to Cleveland, sure. Now he is pretty damn underrated, at least by the tards on this board
Well said.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:20 am to Tigerfan56
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No one is going to give up a top 3 pick for fricking Kevin Love
No way in hell
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They should trade him and take what they can get but it won't be a top 3 pick.
They actually have a very solid team. They should get another 10 and 10 young guy that can play defense. Use the salary cap saved to build their bench away from a bunch of old sharpshooters that rarely ever play.
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They fricked up the Wiggins/Love trade on a monumental scale. IMO it will go down as the worst trade in modern day basketball, especially if Love bolts via fre agency this offseason.
I agree it was a stupid trade, but only because it was for Love. Wiggins would have been tough to place with LeBron. I think they should have traded for someone like a Millsap and a bench player if they traded him at all. Love wasn't going to work. Only reason Bosh worked is because Wade started to drop off and Bosh became the #2. Kyrie is getting better and that leaves Love as the constant #3. Him leaving will be the best thing for Cleveland going forward.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:24 am to PortCityTiger24
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He was overrated before going to Cleveland, sure. Now he is pretty damn underrated, at least by the tards on this board.
Yea...I don't think Love just got shitty all of a sudden
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:28 am to DeathValley85
Love is just fine where he is, and with what he is doing
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:29 am to DeathValley85
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Yea...I don't think Love just got shitty all of a sudden
Well great numbers on a bad team "shitty." Not that he's bad, just that he's not going to go 25/12 as a 3rd option likely and if he does, his team is winning the title for sure
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:31 am to Buckeye Backer
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Not if the Cavs win the NBA title. Kobe Bryant will be in "win now" mode when he comes back. He will want veterans. Love is a great player and it is known that Love has always loved the thought of going home and being a Laker. He just doesnt fit in with this team. Like i said, it simply hasnt worked. Andrew Wiggins is good, but lets not act like he is the next legend.
If the Lakers wanted Love, why wouldn't they just sign him outright and keep their pick?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:32 am to oleyeller
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oleyeller
.....my Jim Brown and Dick Butkus helmets wanted me to tell you hey.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:35 am to Buckeye Backer
I think this is a bit of an overreaction. Love has struggled of late, and we've seen before that traditional PFs don't mesh well on LeBron-led teams. Bosh was always pulled away from the basket and forced to hit elbow jumpers and corner 3s, and now the same is true with Love on this team. A healthy Varejao is exactly what the team needs, a well-rounded, high IQ, pick and roll player. Love is used to being the number one guy on bad teams, and was allowed to occupy whatever part of the floor he wished. I still think he'll adjust and I think the Cavs will eventually figure out a way to use him consistently to get his full value, it just shouldn't be as a stretch four. If that's the game plan, why not go small and run with LeBron, three guards, and Mosgod?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:36 am to Buckeye Backer
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Not if the Cavs win the NBA title
I mean I guess? Love could turn it around but right now he's essentially a role player for the team, and they traded away a future superstar for him.
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Kobe Bryant will be in "win now" mode when he comes back
if the Lakers want to shift to "win-now" mode, step one will be getting rid of Kobe. Unless he accepts his decline and is willing to take on a much lesser role (which I don't think Kobe's pride allows that), the Lakers aren't winning shite. quote:
Andrew Wiggins is good, but lets not act like he is the next legend.
If you watch Wiggins you can tell he's destined to be a star. He may be a top 25 player in this loaded league already.
And to your point that he wouldn't be the same with Lebron. That's true. But he's also a very good defender when Love is a disaster on D and total liability. Wiggins could play alongisde LBJ because he could at least give great defense, even though his role on offense would be alot different. Not to mention the Cavs could be developing the next superstar while Lebron starts to slowly decline in the next few years.
No way to say Cleveland won this trade, unless there is a huge change in things for either Love/Wiggins.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:37 am to Mr. Wayne
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Only reason Bosh worked is because Wade started to drop off and Bosh became the #2. Kyrie is getting better and that leaves Love as the constant #3. Him leaving will be the best thing for Cleveland going forward.
Love as the #3 option is averaging pretty much the same numbers as Bosh's entire time in Miami.. hes actually been better in a few cats.
The fit has been a little funky, but I dont think we should assume Cleveland will be a better team without him.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:38 am to PortCityTiger24
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Didn't the Cavs do this last year??
Yes.
But if you're a GM, are you going to give up a top 3 pick for Kevin Love? He used to be seen as a superstar. He doesn't even play in the 4th and the Cavs are better because of it.
Yes his play suffers because of Lebron, but it shouldn't suffer this much. Chris Bosh had a decline in raw stats (points, rebounds), while playing with Lebron. But that was due to usage. His efficiency was very good (probably better than ever without looking it up), while Love's efficiency has dropped.
You'd be crazy to pass up Towns/Okafor to build around Love.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:00 am to BreakawayZou83
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A healthy Varejao is exactly what the team needs, a well-rounded, high IQ, pick and roll player
Go look at varejao history, there's never been a "healthy" time in his career. He's always hurt, and the older he gets, the worse it'll get. Cavs were stupid as frick to sign him to a +$10 million multi year deal.
Last 5 years amount of games played in each season :
31
25
25
65
26
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:03 am to Buckeye Backer
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Kobe Bryant will be in "win now" mode when he comes back
Bro its over for Kobe.
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