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re: Bill Simmons on recent BS Report: "Pels will replace Monty with Thibs"

Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32531 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:33 am to
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He's a much better coach than Monty, we'd probably just have to deal with a lot of these injuries.


We already do though...

Exactly. Give me Thibs over Monty every time.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40926 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:37 am to
I'm saying if given those two options, I'd take the latter. But it's not my choice anyway so IDGAF
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:40 am to
Rose played 8800 minutes his first 3 seasons plus 1200 playoff minutes. If you BREF MP first 3 years regular season, LeBron, Rose, Durant are top 30 and the only "modern" NBA (depending on how you feel about Elton Brand) guys in that group. Not a great sign that Durant and Rose are breaking down right now. LeBron is a freak and even he took a couple of weeks off.

Longer postseason is adding entire seasons to careers. Guys can't rest on defense the way they could in previous eras. Too much demanded of them. Plus, these are 19 yos, not fully grown men. They can play and play very well at this level, but the regular season is grueling.

Thibs is without question a far, far superior coach to Monty. If they could get him to agree to minutes restrictions, I'm all about it. If not, I don't know if I pull the trigger. I want to do everything to keep Davis healthy for the next decade and deep playoff runs, not just extra regular season wins.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:41 am to
Would thibs put up with ryno and tyreke's lack of defense? Tyreke is to a lesser extent cause he's worked magic with some guards these days.

I don't think they fit what he wants

ETA: this is funny timing with what that bucks writer tweeted last night.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:47 am to
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Pau 34.6
Noah 30.9
Gibson 28.1
Mirotic 18.4

I'm really surprised Pau is the minutes leader there


I think the Pau thing is an injury deal. Noah and Gibson have been banged up, Mirotic only a rookie.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:04 am to
Some people actually think Monty is better that Tommy Tib?

Is that why The Bulls almost, always destroy us when we play them.

This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66441 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:09 am to
give me thibs all fricking day
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:22 am to
I'll be cool with this
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63567 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:26 am to
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I want to do everything to keep Davis healthy for the next decade and deep playoff runs, not just extra regular season wins.

Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:30 am to
flannery/ziller on monty:

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ZILLER: I agree with you on Thibs. It's a bit like Let Westbrook Be Westbrook: you can't have the good without the bad. His dedication to grinding every single moment (plus all that talent, who all bought in) is what got them on top of the East in 2011 and 2012. Monty has been pounded repeatedly for his tactics, but something's working, because the Pelicans won't die despite a bunch of injuries. He's certainly not perfect, but he deserves a lot more credit than most are willing to give. You went down to witness the team for a while. Does he seem to have a serious impact on the Pelicans' drive? He said in your big piece that he's felt a need to take some of the "veteran leader" burden off Anthony Davis. That surely has real value, right? FLANNERY: I think it does, but more importantly, Monty Williams and Anthony Davis think it does. Here's an example: Monty kept AD out of the lineup the first night I was there for a game against the Clippers even though Davis wanted to play. They had no business winning that game, but they did anyway. That's a testament to two things: One, Monty's not going to put his star player in jeopardy for a short-term benefit; and two, somehow, someway they keep winning games they should lose. Now, the flipside is they've lost a lot of games they should win, so again, no one knows anything.


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There aren't a lot of coaches who would approach it this way and I think that's a good thing for AD long-term. ZILLER: It totally is. And that sort of positive impact is lost on the 99 percent of basketball fans who aren't in the locker room. We think we see Monty's tactical failings -- even though most of those of likely more than meets the eye; remember, we know nothing -- and so we write him off. But behind the veil he's doing things to infuse his team with faith, loyalty and trust. All of that has value in the long term ... if he's allowed to stick around for the long run.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61536 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:44 am to
I still want to upgrade Monty, but I do think he has the potential to be our Scott Brooks. While that's far from the best case scenario, if KD leaves OKC it will be because of roster management/ownership cheapness, not Brooks' being a mediocre coach. Coaching is the quickest part of the equation to change. The only reason we need to be in a hurry to replace Monty is in the case of limited time opportunities, like maybe you think Thibs is the guy and he's going to be available. If we're on shaky ground with AD in 4 years it won't be because Monty got to coach the last year of his current contract it will be because the roster isn't good enough or management hasn't shown AD they are committed to winning.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:49 am to
I dunno how to feel about this
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:03 am to
Someone give me Thibs with a check
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:29 am to
I can get with this
Posted by BuddyLAM
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
2633 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:19 pm to
I would be worried of over use
Thibodau hated the bench while I am a big fan of it
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52647 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:42 pm to
The injury story is bullshite
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95833 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:48 pm to
Doesn't Chicago have issues with their medical staff that could contribute to the players' problems?

I know that Deng claimed that the Bulls' trainers tried to downplay his injuries to get him back on the court at one point.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110945 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:06 pm to
I don't want either of them.

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