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Vice: Killing Cancer

Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:28 pm
really good episode of Vice that just aired.

Killing cancer with HIV, measles, and genetically-engineered cold viruses.

LINK

42 mins long, but it goes by really quickly.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:31 pm to
I watched it Friday night. Very interesting.
Posted by belowmebama
Member since Jul 2008
7303 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:35 pm to
Watched this the other day.

Very interesting stuff. To think that this is set for 2016 is remarkable. We may actually be on the cusp for a cure. Would be amazing.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:38 pm to
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We may actually be on the cusp for a cure. Would be amazing.


No we aren't. We have been able to kill cancer cells in tissue culture for decades. The problem with real cancers is their ability to evolve around the treatments and actively recruit the immune system to hide itself.

Trust me, there will never be a "cure" for cancer, only better prevention, earlier detection, and improved treatments.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39422 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:40 pm to
Love the Vice stories. Push their agenda a little too much at times, but great journalism and important topics nobody knows about.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:43 pm to
Have you watched it?

That's the whole point of the treatment. The HIV T-cells "attack" the cancer cells, not saying they destriy them. They basically live in the cancer cells. Well, as we all know cancer manipulates your immune system to not destroy the cancer cells. Well the HIV cells don't carry that property and cause the bodies immune system to destroy the cancer cells.

This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:52 pm to
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Have you watched it?


I live it, bro. I am an expert in gene therapy cancer treatments. My name is literally on the textbook about a certain type of gene delivery technique. Also, part of that episode was filmed where I work. Actually, I am getting to part of the episode that discusses something which was a major basis for my research (which I started over 10 years ago).

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That's the whole point of the treatment. The HIV T-cells "attack" the cancer cells, not saying they destriy them. They basically live in the cancer cells. Well, as we all know cancer manipulates your immune system to not destroy the cancer cells. Well the HIV cells don't carry that property and cause the bodies immune system to destroy the cancer cells.



Like I said, this is a better treatment, not "The Cure." The problem is that the viruses must target a specific antigen on tumor cells. Therefore, all cancer cells which do not have that antigen will not be targeted.

the real cutting edge stuff are the CAR T Cell adoptive cell transfer studies which should start soon. Those treatments are the real cutting edge stuff.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:54 pm to
I think I know who you are.

I'm pretty sure your current roommate lived with me at LSU.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:54 pm to
What about Olive Oil?
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm pretty sure your current roommate lived with me at LSU.


You lived with my wife? You motherfricker!!!!
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:56 pm to
dammit maybe there's another LSU guy doing the same stuff at MD?

You know SS?

Your name start with a B? You from Houma?
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:58 pm to
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You know SS?


I know a couple people with those initials...

quote:

Your name start with a B?


Nope

quote:

You from Houma?


Nope

Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8489 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:03 pm to
Regardless of viewpoints I love learning about these studies and there success rates.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69050 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:06 pm to
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actively recruit the immune system to hide itself.


which is exactly what these new treatments target. They don't kill the cancer, they allow your white blood cells to see and kill the cancer.
By your credentials you know this.

--nevermind.

This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:18 pm to
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You know SS?


What up.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:17 pm to
Geaudeaux,

Does the olive oil story have real promise, or is it one of those "breakthroughs" that will be buried and forgotten?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35346 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:37 pm to
So instead of cancer you get hiv? Awesome
Posted by belowmebama
Member since Jul 2008
7303 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:46 pm to
I'm keeping your name in the event I get cancer. I expect a TD discount with my treatments
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
1890 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:53 pm to
MD Anderson = Hell on earth.
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