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re: Saints are 23.2 million over the cap for 2015
Posted on 2/11/15 at 1:32 pm to Tigersaint13
Posted on 2/11/15 at 1:32 pm to Tigersaint13
quote:In other news...water is wet and the sky is blue. Now here's Stacy Stormbottom with tomorrow's forecast.
Saints are 23.2 million over the cap for 2015
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:38 pm to King George
While the Saints will get under the cap (obviously, they have to). I am highly entertained by the people that act like this isn't an issue.
Yes, Loomis has used loopholes to circumvent these issues in years past but he's done so by pushing off the inevitable to future years. Well, now the future is starting to knock at the door. To continue to brush this off like no big deal reminds me of the government.
2 Billion in debt? frick it, let's go 6 Billion. It's only a number, right? 4 years pass and then it grows to 10 Billion. Then the 6 billion seemed like a drop in the bucket.
Yes, Loomis has used loopholes to circumvent these issues in years past but he's done so by pushing off the inevitable to future years. Well, now the future is starting to knock at the door. To continue to brush this off like no big deal reminds me of the government.
2 Billion in debt? frick it, let's go 6 Billion. It's only a number, right? 4 years pass and then it grows to 10 Billion. Then the 6 billion seemed like a drop in the bucket.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:02 pm to DoubleDown
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Yes, Loomis has used loopholes to circumvent these issues in years past but he's done so by pushing off the inevitable to future years. Well, now the future is starting to knock at the door. To continue to brush this off like no big deal reminds me of the government.
loopholes? you make it sound so illegal.
In reality, 2017 is the year that it might actually do something to bite us.
Lets just say we restructure lofton, graham, galette, and byrd. Saints would be at 139.7mil for 2015, 150.9mil for 2016. Free agents in 2016 that mean something: Cameron Jordan, Akiem Hicks, Nick Toon, Khiry Robinson, Josh Hill, Glenn Foster, Tim Lelito, and Austin Johnson.
That is still with players that are aging that are hitting the cap hard.
Marques Colston (10.5mil cap: 2.7mil dead, 7.8mil savings)
Ben Grubbs (10.3mil cap: 3.0mil dead, 7.3mil savings)
Jahri Evans (10.2mil cap: 1.5mil dead, 8.7mil savings)
Brodrick Bunkley (6.112mil cap: 1.612mil dead, 4.5mil savings)
David Hawthorne (5.51mil cap: 1.51mil dead, 4.0mil savings)
Give it til 2017 and we'll be in bigger trouble.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:06 pm to DoubleDown
We are fricked once Brees is gone. Mine as well make shite work while he's here, which Loomis can manage to do manipulating the cap. It's up to the rest of the staff to make sure the talent here fits.
There was already a thread saying how the cap this year can be managed, and it's in better shape than it was last season.
The cap doesn't worry me near as much as this team filling the necessary voids by way of draft picks, and players here developing leadership. It's not like this team is void of talent. Brees needs to be protected, and the team needs to stay healthy.
There was already a thread saying how the cap this year can be managed, and it's in better shape than it was last season.
The cap doesn't worry me near as much as this team filling the necessary voids by way of draft picks, and players here developing leadership. It's not like this team is void of talent. Brees needs to be protected, and the team needs to stay healthy.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:18 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
We are fricked once Brees is gone. Mine as well make shite work while he's here, which Loomis can manage to do manipulating the cap. It's up to the rest of the stuff to make sure the talent here fits.
There was already a thread saying how the cap this year can be managed, and it's in better shape than it was last season.
The cap doesn't worry me near as much as this team filling the necessary voids by way of draft picks, and players here developing leadership. It's not like this team is void of talent. Brees needs to be protected, and the team needs to stay healthy.
Yeah all of this
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:31 pm to CocoLoco
Offense: 2x Guard, 1x Center, 1x WR (this is a tossup...), 1x do-it-all RB
Defense: 1x DT/NT, 1x OLB, 1x ILB, 1x #2CB
not too void of talent.
Defense: 1x DT/NT, 1x OLB, 1x ILB, 1x #2CB
not too void of talent.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:36 pm to DoubleDown
DD Your analogy to Govt over spending is terrible man 
Nothing about the two is remotely similar.
But if we are the over spending US Government then that would make the falcons organization...
Nothing about the two is remotely similar.
But if we are the over spending US Government then that would make the falcons organization...
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:17 pm to DoubleDown
Some people really don't get how the cap works. A lot of the "catching up" is old guys on big contracts that will get cut or reduced (like we did last year). Just look at the numbers of the older guys that was posted.
We've been doing this for years and it has not and will not "catch up" to us because Loomis knows how to structure contracts.
Now whether some people deserve the contracts is another matter.
We've been doing this for years and it has not and will not "catch up" to us because Loomis knows how to structure contracts.
Now whether some people deserve the contracts is another matter.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:51 pm to Laaz2750
Great work
Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:04 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
We are fricked once Brees is gone. Mine as well make shite work while he's here, which Loomis can manage to do manipulating the cap. It's up to the rest of the staff to make sure the talent here fits.
I thought that would drop some once he was gone?
quote:
There was already a thread saying how the cap this year can be managed, and it's in better shape than it was last season.
Agree, this year should be better than last and Loomis worked magic last year.
quote:
The cap doesn't worry me near as much as this team filling the necessary voids by way of draft picks, and players here developing leadership. It's not like this team is void of talent. Brees needs to be protected, and the team needs to stay healthy.
I agree. I don't think you guys are THAT screwed on the cap. But I keep seeing threads that are legit in asking if y'all are gonna sign Marshawn Lynch, Landry and a bunch of other FAs. How in the hell do people think that's gonna happen?
ETA: Sorry, it was Michael Oher and the Kraken.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:18 pm to DoubleDown
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But I keep seeing threads that are legit in asking if y'all are gonna sign Marshawn Lynch, Landry and a bunch of other FA
you do realize this board asks that about every FA right? does not make it legit in the least. just because someone makes a thread about it, doesnt mean its serious.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:29 pm to DoubleDown
quote:
I agree. I don't think you guys are THAT screwed on the cap. But I keep seeing threads that are legit in asking if y'all are gonna sign Marshawn Lynch, Landry and a bunch of other FAs. How in the hell do people think that's gonna happen?
because we always make idiotic should we threads about the latest FA that hits yahoo/espn headlines...
Now the one that would make sense: Hardy
Posted on 2/11/15 at 6:29 pm to DoubleDown
People were hoping we would sign Byrd last year and no one here (me included) thought it was possible yet we did it.
If we want someone bad enough we will make it work under the cap.
If we want someone bad enough we will make it work under the cap.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:47 am to The Sad Banana
I have a feeling Loomis pulls a rabbit out and signs not one but two big time free agents and the whole NFC south message boards collapse
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:14 am to saintsalwaysnumber1
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not one but two big time free agents
Suh and Demarco Murray CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:51 am to Tigersaint13
Maybe Breezy should take a pay cut, he did suck in crunch time last year.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:08 pm to mindbreaker
Ndamakong Suh and Justin Houston.
BOOK IT!
BOOK IT!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:49 pm to Tigersaint13
They cut everyone, they restructure the rest, they sign 5 FA and finish 9-7
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:01 pm to goatmilker
3,4,1,2
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