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James Berardinelli's solution to fix the Best Picture Oscar award
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 5:55 pm
Add a box office minimum:
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So what's the proposal, the one that would forever "taint the integrity" of the Best Picture award? (I'm only proposing this for Best Picture - the other categories could continue nominating from obscure fare because, for the most part, the actors and actresses are recognizable brand names even if the specific performances aren't.) Add a single qualifying factor to the eligibility criteria: the film must have grossed at least $100M domestic by 11:59 pm on December 31. Small films are still eligible to have their directors, casts, and technical people nominated but in order to vie for the Big Dog, you have to be a Big Dog.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:02 pm to Wally Sparks
I don't understand why this would be a legitimate issue, other than the major studios trying to push out the independent films.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:10 pm to Wally Sparks
stupid frickin solution
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:12 pm to Wally Sparks
What an idiotic statement
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:18 pm to Wally Sparks
That's pretty goddamn communist if you ask me.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:23 pm to Wally Sparks
hell no thats a stupid fricking idea
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:28 pm to Wally Sparks
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solution to fix the Best Picture Oscar award
This needs to be fixed? I thought lots of big films have won it?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:45 pm to Wally Sparks
Or another solution is we could recognize the Oscars for what they really are: nothing more than an evening where the Hollywood elite get to enjoy the smell of their own farts on national television.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:50 pm to Superior Pariah
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Or another solution is we could recognize the Oscars for what they really are: nothing more than an evening where the Hollywood elite get to enjoy the smell of their own farts on national television.
agreed, as usual
self-indulgent, self-congratulatory circle jerk
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:56 pm to Wally Sparks
That is a horrible idea. It is just to try and push out high quality independent films.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:57 pm to Wally Sparks
That is a pretty stupid idea. Box office revenue does not necessarily mean quality. I think American Sniper is the only nominee this year that has grossed over $100 million anyway.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 7:50 pm to Wally Sparks
You should preface this by saying what it is, a way to make the Oscar telecast more successful. On that note, it's a good idea.
It's also a slight nod to finding movies that are both high quality and reach an audience. There's something to that. Too many of these gut reactions are about thinking Berardinelli means "high quality films make money," which is, although debatable, not the point.
And I find it strange that many here don't like this, but constantly moan about SPR over Shakespeare in Love.
It's also a slight nod to finding movies that are both high quality and reach an audience. There's something to that. Too many of these gut reactions are about thinking Berardinelli means "high quality films make money," which is, although debatable, not the point.
And I find it strange that many here don't like this, but constantly moan about SPR over Shakespeare in Love.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 7:55 pm to Freauxzen
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And I find it strange that many here don't like this, but constantly moan about SPR over Shakespeare in Love.
SiL hit his $100 million threshold
and its not a gut reaction.
its a stupid idea. period.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:02 pm to Wally Sparks
Would it really change anything though? The Hurt Locker and Crash are the only Best Picture winners in the last 25 years to not gross 100+ million at the box office. Birdman/Boyhood will probably be added to the list this year but all in all, it's rare for a Best Picture winner to not be a success at the box office.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:06 pm to Wally Sparks
This is the absolute dumbest fricking thing I've ever heard.
There's plenty wrong with the Oscars but this isn't one of them.
There's plenty wrong with the Oscars but this isn't one of them.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:13 pm to Dr RC
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SiL hit his $100 million threshold
I'm just thinking from the "bigger hit shouldn't win," idea. SPR was ~$210 to SiL's, 100.
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and its not a gut reaction.
its a stupid idea. period.
His goal is to say what would make the Oscars more watchable, that's all. And he has a point.
Again, the Oscars, even at the current level, have nothing to do with budget, quality or anything else. It's pure manipulation and media savvy. There's nothing to keep "pure," so a terrible idea it is not.
He asks a simple question:
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Are the Oscars out of touch?
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:18 pm to Freauxzen
Yes, its a terrible idea and he doesnt have a good point at all.
More popular movies doesnt make it more watchable. Having a solid host and speeding up the damn thing does that.
He is making the same stupid argument some (Colin Cowherd chief among them) try to make when a small market sports team makes a championship game.
The Oscars aren't out of touch either. Their point isn't to reward what made the most money. This isn't the People's Choice Awards or MTV Movie Awards.
More popular movies doesnt make it more watchable. Having a solid host and speeding up the damn thing does that.
He is making the same stupid argument some (Colin Cowherd chief among them) try to make when a small market sports team makes a championship game.
The Oscars aren't out of touch either. Their point isn't to reward what made the most money. This isn't the People's Choice Awards or MTV Movie Awards.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:21 pm to Dr RC
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Yes, its a terrible idea and he doesnt have a good point at all.
He's merely poking a hole and opening a discussion to point to the question of what deserves honor? Does something need to be "in touch," to be "great?" Or can it be "out of touch," and still be great.
It's a viable artistic question.
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More popular movies doesnt make it more watchable
Maybe not watchable, but viewership probably increases.
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Having a solid host and speeding up the damn thing does that
He is making the same stupid argument some try to make when a small market sports team makes a championship game.
Not really:
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The Academy's argument is straightforward. Supporters of the current Best Picture selection claim that the films are chosen by artistic merit rather than for commercial reasons. This is, of course, bullshite. Studios spend millions upon millions of dollars attempting to buy nominations and, for the most part, they are successful, at least if a movie is well regarded. The end result isn't necessarily that the nominees represent excellence but the perception of quality is high. Box office blockbusters rarely get nominated, and even more rarely win, because there's a stigma against them. In many cases, money is perceived as the antithesis of quality. It's a hypocritical stance but that's one reason why Whiplash (which I adored) got a nod and Interstellar (which I cited as the best film of 2014) didn't.
He's saying it's already tainted, which you must agree with.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 8:22 pm to Freauxzen
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His goal is to say what would make the Oscars more watchable, that's all. And he has a point.
It gets huge ratings ever year. Apparently lots of people think its already watchable.
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