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Older guys and boxing fans
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:07 pm
If Floyd and Manny were to fight in May where would it rank, in terms of build up, interest, excitement, relevance etc... in the pantheon of boxing greatest fights?
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:10 pm to RandySavage
I think it would be similar to Tyson/Lennox.
Huge build...not that great of a fight. The venue sucked too
Huge build...not that great of a fight. The venue sucked too
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:18 pm to RandySavage
It would be second right behind the Boston Strong Boy John Sullivan vs. Gentleman Jim Corbett.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:20 pm to RandySavage
Rating it up against Hagler/Hearns,Ali/Frasier 1,2,
Ali/Foreman....
It's a great fight but in my opinion it's not a Classic,unless it is.
Ali/Foreman....
It's a great fight but in my opinion it's not a Classic,unless it is.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:23 pm to tidalmouse
I'm not a boxing fan, but even with ESPN, social media, the internet etc. current matchups don't come close to the hype and excitement of yesteryear.
It was huge "back in the day."
It was huge "back in the day."
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:25 pm to Tigertown in ATL
The hype would dwarf any of the past "mega-fights." It wouldn't even be close, which is more of a shame that it more than likely won't happen.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:33 pm to RandySavage
I'm over it. If it happens, fine, but I'm not clamoring to see it. Both of these guys are in their mid to late 30s.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:19 pm to RandySavage
I don't keep up with it anymore, but when boxing was on network TV in the 70's it was at it's best.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'd put it in the Top 10 fights of the last 50 years.
But nowhere near the greatest fight ever- Hagler/Hearns.
But nowhere near the greatest fight ever- Hagler/Hearns.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't keep up with it anymore, but when boxing was on network TV in the 70's it was at it's best.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:39 pm to RandySavage
The days of the average Joe getting up for 'big fights' has long since sailed.
Sad.
Sad.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Al Haymon is working on bringing boxing back to network and cable. He already struck a deal with NBC. Plus he has CBS, Spike TV and other rumored channels. Supposedly he wants to drive premium channels and PPV out of the sport. This is actually a time-buy: he's paying networks to show his fights. He has a bunch of investors behind him to kick off his new boxing series "Premier Boxing Champions".
Haymon is a very shady figure in the sport who stays hidden. He's smart as shite though. Even has a termination clause in his fighters contracts that says they can't say anything negative about him in public. I guess that's why they make sure they thank him in ever damn post fight interview. Haymon is the man who made Floyd the money man that he is today. And Floyd likes to claim he's the boss but always remember that it's Haymon that's really running shite.
It's pretty incredible how mysterious this man is. There are only a handful of photos of him, he's never seen at fights, refuses to talk to the media, refuses to talk business face to face, etc. But there is no doubt he's the most powerful man in the sport. What's also interesting is he's basically signing everyone now and the rumor is he wants to start his own league, create his own belts, etc. just like the UFC.
The strangest of all though is he's called an "advisor" by his clients. It's illegal to both manage and promote fighters. That's why the Ali Act was created. But everyone with common sense in the sport knows he's managing and promoting. He's just using DiBella entertainment right now the way he used to use Golden Boy Promotions. They put their logo on everything, charge a fee and let Haymon call all the shots.
Just a few notes on the man who's attempting to turn boxing into the UFC and put it all over television.
Haymon is a very shady figure in the sport who stays hidden. He's smart as shite though. Even has a termination clause in his fighters contracts that says they can't say anything negative about him in public. I guess that's why they make sure they thank him in ever damn post fight interview. Haymon is the man who made Floyd the money man that he is today. And Floyd likes to claim he's the boss but always remember that it's Haymon that's really running shite.
It's pretty incredible how mysterious this man is. There are only a handful of photos of him, he's never seen at fights, refuses to talk to the media, refuses to talk business face to face, etc. But there is no doubt he's the most powerful man in the sport. What's also interesting is he's basically signing everyone now and the rumor is he wants to start his own league, create his own belts, etc. just like the UFC.
The strangest of all though is he's called an "advisor" by his clients. It's illegal to both manage and promote fighters. That's why the Ali Act was created. But everyone with common sense in the sport knows he's managing and promoting. He's just using DiBella entertainment right now the way he used to use Golden Boy Promotions. They put their logo on everything, charge a fee and let Haymon call all the shots.
Just a few notes on the man who's attempting to turn boxing into the UFC and put it all over television.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:26 pm to Marciano1
quote:yep
Y.A. Tittle
The days of the average Joe getting up for 'big fights' has long since sailed.
quote:This would be good. I was a HUGE boxing fan back in the day, but I can't tell you the last time I've seen a marquee fighter on TV. I'm just not going to drop 50 bucks (or whatever it costs now) on guys I've never seen, for a fight that might last less than 3 minutes potentially. Just won't.
Al Haymon is working on bringing boxing back to network and cable. He already struck a deal with NBC. Plus he has CBS, Spike TV and other rumored channels. Supposedly he wants to drive premium channels and PPV out of the sport
Whatever the plan is, we need fights on TV. Not drama, not hype, but fights. You need to see the actual boxers a few times, and then their own skill becomes the hype: I couldn't have cared less what Leonard or Hearns said about each other (for example), but I wanted to see Sugar Ray against the Hitman. Because I already knew, from watching, that those were two bad men in the ring.
Or Tyson- we saw him on ESPN and/or the networks a number of times coming up, and that's when he became known as such a beast. It was okay to go PPV for some title fights once he was already established, but we got to see him first.
As to the OP- Mayweather vs Pacchio would be the biggest fight since De La Hoya vs Trinidad, but not bigger. And it wouldn't make top ten in anything other than money; plenty of lesser grossing fights would be more remembered.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:30 pm to RandySavage
quote:
where would it rank, in terms of build up, interest, excitement, relevance etc...
Not nearly as high as it would have 6 years ago.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:36 pm to Scoob
Shame the sport has been overrun by MMA & UFC - just glad I was around for the good years & glad to be able to still offer a comment
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:36 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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I'd put it in the Top 10 fights of the last 50 years.
But nowhere near the greatest fight ever- Hagler/Hearns.
No way. They are both too old. Manny isn't the same boxer he was 5 years ago and now Mayweather wants to fight. Ha.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:29 pm to Geaux8686
I agree with you guys. I was in a long argument today with two buddies, one a big boxing fan, who claim it would be the biggest fight of all time even now and that it wasn't even really close.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:30 pm to RandySavage
Pre Manny getting put to sleep? Up there with Ali/Frazier.
But no true way to compare. 1970's world was much different. A fight could capture the world. Now there Are too many distractions. And like it or not UFC is here and split off many fans. Boxing is to blame for this as well.
I am old enough to recall Ali. But only during his decline.
But no true way to compare. 1970's world was much different. A fight could capture the world. Now there Are too many distractions. And like it or not UFC is here and split off many fans. Boxing is to blame for this as well.
I am old enough to recall Ali. But only during his decline.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:07 pm to LSU alum wannabe
wouldn't come close to any big fight before the 90s ... don't know all of the big fights in the post 90s, but boxing back then was truly a big sport prior to the 90s (or whenever it fell off) ...
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