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Seattle had the ball first and goal from the 6 with 1:06 left, AND TWO TIMEOUTS
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:50 pm
And ran two plays in 46 seconds and also burned one of their TOs.
This is being overlooked by the play call error.
The real error was not calling two plays AFTER A TIMEOUT when you knew you really wanted to run the ball four times (or maybe they wanted to throw all along.)
At least have two runs called, then you can burn a TO and run OR pass on 4th down. There was plenty of time for that.
The Hawks ended up running lynch to the one with about 1 minute left and let the play clock get down TO ONE SECOND before snapping the next play.
This was the nearly undisscused blunder by coaching staff and game manager (R. Wilson). Unfathomable that they were that bad at clock management.
Les Miles bad; in the SUPER BOWL.
This is being overlooked by the play call error.
The real error was not calling two plays AFTER A TIMEOUT when you knew you really wanted to run the ball four times (or maybe they wanted to throw all along.)
At least have two runs called, then you can burn a TO and run OR pass on 4th down. There was plenty of time for that.
The Hawks ended up running lynch to the one with about 1 minute left and let the play clock get down TO ONE SECOND before snapping the next play.
This was the nearly undisscused blunder by coaching staff and game manager (R. Wilson). Unfathomable that they were that bad at clock management.
Les Miles bad; in the SUPER BOWL.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 5:50 pm
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:52 pm to KosmoCramer
Belichick's clock management was just as bad.
I'm in the minority in that I don't have a problem with the play call. I just think it was an amazing individual play by Butler.
That's a touchdown against 90% of the corners in the NFL. Even jumping the route and closing as fast as he did, it was an absolutely incredible play to haul in the interception as well.
I'm in the minority in that I don't have a problem with the play call. I just think it was an amazing individual play by Butler.
That's a touchdown against 90% of the corners in the NFL. Even jumping the route and closing as fast as he did, it was an absolutely incredible play to haul in the interception as well.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:53 pm to KosmoCramer
I'm starting to wonder(like others have mentioned) if they really were razzled that Hoodie didn't blow a timeout.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:55 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
The real error was not calling two plays AFTER A TIMEOUT when you knew you really wanted to run the ball four times (or maybe they wanted to throw all along.)
I think they did have two plays lined up and the 2nd one was a pass. They said after the game that they were planning on passing on 2nd down so that worst case they would have plenty of time and not be rushed for both 3rd and 4th down (due to having a TO left).
They didn't switch from the pass play because Seattle had 3 WRs out on the field and the Patriots subbed in their goal line package, so they stuck with the play call.
I thought that they managed the clock very well. They had it down to 30 seconds and were going to get 3 chances to score a TD, basically leaving NE with no time left.
The biggest error was the specific play call, not the fact that they decided to throw the ball.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:00 pm to TDawg1313
The error was that they felt the need to pass which is what they said so they could get four plays in if needed.
They ended up getting too cute and may have been trying to bleed the play clock on purpose.
The plan all along was the pass which makes ZERO frickING SENSE when they Lynch was gashing people.
Hand the ball to him four damn times, run counter if you want and a read option, and a power. Then decide what run you want if it got to fourth down (which it never would have).
Terrible all around.
And they were anticipating Bill burning his TO after first down, NO DOUBT.
They ended up getting too cute and may have been trying to bleed the play clock on purpose.
The plan all along was the pass which makes ZERO frickING SENSE when they Lynch was gashing people.
Hand the ball to him four damn times, run counter if you want and a read option, and a power. Then decide what run you want if it got to fourth down (which it never would have).
Terrible all around.
And they were anticipating Bill burning his TO after first down, NO DOUBT.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:07 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:I agree.
I'm in the minority in that I don't have a problem with the play call. I just think it was an amazing individual play by Butler.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:09 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
I'm in the minority in that I don't have a problem with the play call.
If they weren't gashing them up the middle and they hadn't hardly stuffed Lynch all day then I'd agree.
But he had the hot hand.
Why target your trash WRs when you have Wilson and Lynch in the backfield and they haven't been neutralized the majority of the game?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:10 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
Belichick's clock management was just as bad.
I don't think so. I think what he did was deliberate. If he had wanted to call timeout, believe me, Bill Belichick would have called timeout.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:11 pm to MountainTiger
I tend to agree it was on purpose as well.
He wanted to force Seattle to throw at least once.
He knew his D couldn't hold them three times from the one with Lynch back there.
He wanted to force Seattle to throw at least once.
He knew his D couldn't hold them three times from the one with Lynch back there.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:12 pm to MountainTiger
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If he had wanted to call timeout, believe me, Bill Belichick would have called timeout.
Well duh.
I don't see what that even means.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:13 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Les Miles bad; in the SUPER BOWL.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:13 pm to BayouBengals03
It means he didn't just forget to call timeout.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:15 pm to MountainTiger
quote:
It means he didn't just forget to call timeout.
no shite
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:17 pm to BayouBengals03
Glad I could clear that up for you.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:18 pm to KosmoCramer
And if he made the catch for the touchdown you'd have nothing to rant about here. You'd be praising (?)the play call. It was a called play that Butler defended perfectly.
Defense wins championships.
Defense wins championships.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:21 pm to BestBanker
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And if he made the catch for the touchdown you'd have nothing to rant about here.
Against 90% of the corners in the league (or more), that's a touchdown. We are talking about something else right now.
It was one of the best defensive plays I've seen. Again, not necessarily that he got there and defended the play, but that he actually intercepted the ball through the contact with the offensive player.
A pass breakup basically doesn't do much for you in that situation.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:21 pm to BestBanker
131 passes all year from the 1 and only the last one was intercepted. That play scored over 60% of the time this year.
Give the DB credit for making the play.
Give the DB credit for making the play.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:22 pm to BestBanker
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And if he made the catch for the touchdown you'd have nothing to rant about here. You'd be praising (?)the play call.
No. I wouldn't. It was and still is a stupid play call when you have Marshawn frickING Lynch in the backfield.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:26 pm to KosmoCramer
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No. I wouldn't. It was and still is a stupid play call when you have Marshawn frickING Lynch in the backfield.
Lynch has scored from the 1-yard line once in five attempts this season.
Only 5 times in 12 attempts the last two years.
Yes, the Pats aren't too strong defending the run and Lynch had been having good success in the 2nd half against them. But he's not automatic to get in from there.
The odds of that ball getting picked off are probably lower than the odds of Lynch not scoring on two rushing attempts.
It was an amazing play.
ETA: I said 2 rushing attempts for Lynch because they probably couldn't run it 3 times from there because of their timeout situation (one remaining).
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:27 pm to KosmoCramer
Lynch was 1 for 5 in that situation this year. 20% and yet every armchair QB assumes he would have waltzed in for the score.
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