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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:25 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:25 pm to brass2mouth
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but if the union strikes you're locked out with the rest of them
so what if you are non-union, then you're good to work if the union-ers are locked out?
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:26 pm to swanny297
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When was the last time a grievance was filed for someone doing a great job
what?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:26 pm to MeatHammer09
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Plus the country couldnt survive if the USW disbanded.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:26 pm to fightin tigers
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Isn't this kind of what is happening? As a group the workforce is valuable.
As a group, yes. If I am an employee I'm not really giving a rats about tenure, seniority or scheduled raises though. Employers with many employees see it as a convenient bargaining tool, but as an employee that would suck for me.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:27 pm to Modern
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so what if you are non-union, then you're good to work if the union-ers are locked out?
yes
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:29 pm to Modern
you could cross the line but it is highly frowned upon. In this industry, cant speak for others, but in this one, you are here more than you are at home. You form good friendships wiht your coworkers and to cross the line you have just become the black sheep and no one will want to associate or help you.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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As a group, yes. If I am an employee I'm not really giving a rats about tenure, seniority or scheduled raises though. Employers with many employees see it as a convenient bargaining tool, but as an employee that would suck for me.
Agreed, I am much more valuable as an individual that what I am paid for. However, it isn't all about pay.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:30 pm to SPEEDY
Exxon's (BR) contract doesn't end until April. But there's also a 75 day (or 90. Can't remember) no strike/lockout clause. So you're looking at June before anything real happens
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:30 pm to Modern
If you are a union plant and it strikes. Everyone must walk out. union or nonunion.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:32 pm to MeatHammer09
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you could cross the line but it is highly frowned upon. In this industry, cant speak for others, but in this one, you are here more than you are at home. You form good friendships wiht your coworkers and to cross the line you have just become the black sheep and no one will want to associate or help you.
we will see how many cross the line when it 3-4 weeks long
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:33 pm to tankyank13
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we will see how many cross the line when it 3-4 weeks long
Happens all the time.
Usually for the money and benefits they were holding out for. Then the union settles 18 months later and they are back out of a job.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:33 pm to swanny297
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if you need someone to protect your job maybe you should evaluate your contribution. Unions protect people who don't do their job more than those that come to work every day and put in a good days work. When was the last time a grievance was filed for someone doing a great job.
This ... And I believe most union employees would be surprised at how quickly & efficiently companies would continue operations if outside contract workers & people from other similar companies were brought in to replace them. ... No one is indispensable, and unions attempting to force that imaginary ideal down the throats of corporations generally isn't successful. The days of corporate agreeing to the concept that a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part, over.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:35 pm to fightin tigers
Union is all about promotions on seniority...
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:35 pm to Arkla Missy
Your ignorance is beautiful.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:36 pm to tankyank13
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we will see how many cross the line when it 3-4 weeks long
It won't even take that long. ... Makes zero shits about "union buddies" when the house, cars, trucks, boats, etc. etc. notes are due.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:37 pm to fightin tigers
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Your ignorance is beautiful.
Funny, I was thinking the same about you.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:38 pm to Arkla Missy
thats why you plan ahead (save yo $$$$) a year in advance for a possible strike.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:40 pm to Arkla Missy
those people arent living right. 
Always prepare for the worst and need to have a rainyday fund. lol
I can survive for months and plus my SO has a damn good job. Plus i know how to do many things that i can get paid for so i have no worries.
This is issue will be resolved shortly and we will all go back to talking smack about other nonsense.
Always prepare for the worst and need to have a rainyday fund. lol
I can survive for months and plus my SO has a damn good job. Plus i know how to do many things that i can get paid for so i have no worries.
This is issue will be resolved shortly and we will all go back to talking smack about other nonsense.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:41 pm to gmshooter
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thats why you plan ahead a year in advance for a possible strike.
sufficient replacements can be found, I have little doubt about that.
What they have as an initial replacement is a joke and both sides of the table know that. It fulfills their operational requirements though. Fatigue and moral are the biggest hurdle the company will cross in the event of a strike. Money can't solve those two issues.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:43 pm to MeatHammer09
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This is issue will be resolved shortly and we will all go back to talking smack about other nonsense.
Then I can go buy my new set of truck nuts
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