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Had Ned and Jaime Actually Fought in the Book, who ya got?

Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:57 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:57 pm
Idk, I think it would've lasted a long...long time. In the end I really really wanna say Ned and think that it would've been one for the ages. But in the end I think Jaime would've won. But make no mistake, I think that Ned could pull one out of his arse.

Also, I read online that Ned made Jaime back down once before then. I'm in the third book, can't remember this happening. Is this true?

And yes, I know that they never actually fought in the book.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:58 pm to
I think Jaime would have carved him up, personally.

Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:58 pm to
No chance would Ned have won.. Oh and wrong board.

Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:58 pm to
nb4wrongboard

Jaime all day no question
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:02 pm to
Jaime was one of the best swordsman around. I don't think Ned could have swung Ice quick enough.
Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

who ya got?


Adnan......
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:03 pm to
Jaime was the best fighter in Westeros. Would've destroyed Ned

Ned did beat Arthur Dayne but he barely made it out of that one. And that's when he was in his prime.

But only The Mountain and oberyn martell could've even given Jaime a challenge

And wrong board NERD
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 7:04 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:03 pm to
My thing is, Ned has faced more battles than Jaime. You don't get through that many battles if you're not a skilled combatant.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:05 pm to
I see what you're saying, but Ned's most famous victory was a situation in which he enjoyed a 7-3 advantage, and he STILL barely survived.

By his own admission he would have died in one on one combat against Dayne, who many believe to be Jaime's equal or at least close.
Posted by Leonard Threenette
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:05 pm to
Ned was half retarded, so he eventually would have stabbed himself
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Jaime was the best fighter in Westeros.


I know this is stated many times in the book and in the show, but we never really get a good firsthand look at it. (I've only read to the end of book 3 - where the show stops.)

We at least get a look inside Jaime's head in book 3, but I would have loved to see more proof of Jaime's skill on display in the show. That's what was so refreshing about Oberyn - we finally get to see a badass fighter who actually fights like a badass fighter.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:09 pm to
Jaime would have eaten Ned alive. Doubt it would have taken Jaime more than a minute to kill him on a one on one duel. Ned wasn't really all that known for his physical prowless, while really only Barristan Selmy could really compete with Jaime.
Posted by Merck
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:10 pm to
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And wrong board NERD


Is there a book reading board?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:11 pm to
Yeah I thibk Jaime would win too. But that's nothing against my boy Ned. It would've been a good fight.

Now if each had an army to command I think Ned's army would win. He was one of the best tacticians in Westeros and never lost when he went to battle.

Well except for that whelp of a whore Cersei.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108554 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

My thing is, Ned has faced more battles than Jaime. You don't get through that many battles if you're not a skilled combatant.


I don't think Ned really went to the front lines. I'm guessing he commanded more from the rear, not in the heat of things like Robert, Jaime, and the Mountain did. I'd take Ned over Jaime managing an army, but not in a one on one sword fight.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:15 pm to
Ned would have been beaten soundly and it would not have taken all that long. Ned was no expert swordsman. His talent was strategy, government, and command. Jamie was the vastly superior swordsman.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:23 pm to
Jaime would've won
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

while really only Barristan Selmy could really compete with Jaime.


The Mountain and the Hound could.

ETA: Oberyn Martell would have put up a good fight as well. That scene in the books and show pissed me off...
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34905 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:41 pm to
This thread made me want to talk GoT so I started a spinoff thread on the Movie Board

Also, did book readers lose their shite when Jaime and Ned started to duel on screen? The show was only 3 or 4 episodes in at that point if I recall. We didn't really know how much they were going to deviate from the source material yet. Having Ned and Jaime fight at that point probably seemed like a HUGEEE difference at first.

I think they resolved it well, and I personally liked the scene a lot, FWIW.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
2777 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:45 pm to
Single combat, Kingslayer, no doubt. But, Ned is the guy you want to lead you into battle. Ned was a ruler, a just king. Jaime, before his transformation, a spoiled, entitled killing machine. I think there are good things in store for Jaime, and I am hoping he continues on to his road to redemption - without giving away to many spoilers to you guys who haven't gotten through the whole thing.

And Ned and Jaime briefly sparred at the end of Game of Thrones (first book) and Ned is speared in the calf by one of the Kingsguard before he is taken captive, though I am fuzzy on whether this was TV series only or both TV and book.
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