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Can we talk about the coach's Xs and Os skill level?

Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:08 pm
Not trying to get banned. Apparently praise for a coach is allowed, but criticism is not.

Can we discuss this on the board?

There was a play that SC ran very successfully once. The inbound play where the guy faked going to the too if the key then went back door for an easy layup. They ran the same play a few minutes later when they needed a basket. It looked like the players were not in a formation to stop this.

Shouldn't you know that was coming?
Posted by ALT F4
Member since Jan 2015
2292 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:09 pm to
The guy faked a cut on an inbound. Maybe the next time he actually does cut. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Comes down to making the basket...
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:11 pm to
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Not trying to get banned. Apparently praise for a coach is allowed, but criticism is not.


Yeah...


Are you new here?
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:15 pm to
Lol. I got a thread deleted, man.

Not even close to what they post on here about Miles.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:16 pm to
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Are you new here?
Are you denying that many threads get deleted for fair criticism of coaches?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Are you denying that many threads get deleted for fair criticism of coaches?

Yep
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6005 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:18 pm to
S. Carolina ran that same inbound play on Kentucky last week and scored super easy.

shite happens.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:19 pm to
Fire Cal
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71618 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:20 pm to
Execution could be the problem and not X and O's.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:52 pm to
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Are you denying that many threads get deleted for fair criticism of coaches?


I'm suggesting there are times when I'm no longer sure this is an LSU forum based on how far posters are allowed to go in bashing the program, players, and coaches.

I can only imagine what a miserable frick one must be to be annoyed that there isn't even more visible criticism of LSU here.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:55 pm to
That didn't have anything to do with coaching. Gray got beat twice. He was betting on the out pass and probably wanted to intercept and head down court.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6070 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:57 pm to
The poster that actually knows Xs and Os is a rare thing on this board.

Honestly , your post doesn't seem too educated on Xs and Os either.

You basically explained the play in very basic terms noticeable to anyone watching.
Not knocking you , but not sure you showed any ability to critique Xs and Os.

Granted its only one post, so I may have you wrong.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:00 pm to
Looked to me like he knew it was coming the second time and still got beat.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:08 pm to
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faked going to the too


Dear God.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Not trying to get banned. Apparently praise for a coach is allowed, but criticism is not.

This is complete bull. People here forget that making exaggerative statements not backed any knowledge or reality is not criticism.

Saying that Coach Jones is bad at X&Os because they got beat on two well executed plays is not criticism. It's a stupid post.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:33 pm to
I think the OP is saying JJones is bad at Xs and Os because he's been bad at xs and os for the past 3 years. Matt the Sconeman was pointing it out on 104.5 several weeks ago. The bad half court offense and inability to draw up good inbounds plays. JJones is an exceptional recruiter, but we're beating bad teams by 4-6 points. We're aren't meeting our full potential.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:43 pm to
Nah man don't feel bad, I don't know if it's that our players struggle to grasp concepts, our coaches are bad at coaching it, or our coaches just don't know X's and O's.

Anybody who knows basketball knows we struggle badly in the X's and O's department. The first inbounds play was just a great play, kudos to them, the second time I saw it coming watching on TV, so did my buddies, and so did the announcer who commented on it, but apparently our team/coaches did not. That really isn't a good thing at all.
Another example of poor X's and O's is our press break at the end, if you even want to call it that. Our guards came together like they should, but they didn't break out hard to the ball, set a screen, or do anything except for jog around and make half attempts to get open. And it hurt us, we got trapped and used a TO, and then we got a 5 second count because we couldn't get it in.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:48 pm to
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It looked like the players were not in a formation to stop this.


Formation?

It's basketball. We were playing man and Gray got beat on a back cut twice. There's no X's and O's that go in to it.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:52 pm to
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There's no X's and O's that go into it

Yes there is.

"Grey, don't deny your man overly aggressive on the inbounds, play him tight but position yourself between him and the basket and be aware of the back cut"

Problem solved. Now, if that conversation was had and he got beat again, that's on him and coaches need to address his inability to adjust/listen to in game coaching
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:56 pm to
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"Grey, don't deny your man overly aggressive on the inbounds, play him tight but position yourself between him and the basket and be aware of the back cut"


That has nothing to do with X's and O's.
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