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re: Man loses $500k; sues Casino - "I was too drunk to gamble"

Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29793 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:41 pm to
Excellent point.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:41 pm to
Heyyyy..I was saving that trump card.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:37 am to
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No they don't. They give you great comps and bring you back as often as you will to give their money back. You are playing adult games. Grow up.

ETA YOU DONT KNOW THE ODDS?? Grow Up.


Yes they do, if they sense you are using any slight advantage to bring the odds more into your favor that is not cheating, they will kick your arse out and ban you.

Card counting for example, that is not cheating by any means, yet they want you to believe it is the devil. It's one of those house rules they use to maintain their house odds. When someone figures out how to eliminate those odds, it's bad. It's only ok for them to up the odds on you like getting you plastered.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 5:38 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:43 am to
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Card counting for example, that is not cheating by any means, yet they want you to believe it is the devil. It's one of those house rules they use to maintain their house odds. When someone figures out how to eliminate those odds, it's bad. It's only ok for them to up the odds on you like getting you plastered.


Casinos name a ton of money off the idea of card counting

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Dam Guide


This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 5:44 am
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 6:19 am to
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Casinos name a ton of money off the idea of card counting


They make a lot of money off real card counters as well, but when the counters have an on night, they make sure to shut down that shite if they can detect them.

I just don't have any issue with this guy trying to run the same kind of racket Casinos use to sucker their prey.

Besides my wife buying a powerball ticket when it gets near a record and some random friends $5 bowl pick'em or similar, my total gambling amount spent at a real casino sits at $40 from one night in Vegas where it came with free show tickets that were over that amount. I don't gamble, so this story really doesn't impact me. I would definitely go in favor of the guy if I sat on this jury.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 6:21 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:14 am to
Pretty sure this type of thing has been litigated several times. Casino has footage of every bet he made and as long as he is making decisions at the table to be able to continue to play the game he doesn't have a case.

I've been at casinos before where I have seen them refuse to give a marker (additional credit for high rollers the casino has vetted and is comfortable they have plenty to pay for the marker) when the person was really drunk.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81209 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:22 am to
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I was not let into a casino last summer for this exact reason.

Guy actually said "you are too drunk to gamble."


We were allowed to tell people no for any reason we wanted. You follow me around for a drink instead of gambling and waiting for me to come to you? You're being told no because you're bothering the shite out of me.

You get 2-3 drinks out of me in a row with no tip? I'm not coming back.

And we were encouraged to cut people off anytime we thought they looked drunk.

The alcohol serving industry already has a lot of freedom to tell people to screw off, but when the drinks are FREE, I don't care how mad you get Act right or find another waitress.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33957 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:27 am to
A lot of this is just basic right to refuse service. My dad tossed people out all the time for card counting at Caesar's. It was a simple "we don't want your play". They don't need that guy since their was another plane load of suckers landing at any given moment.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12945 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:29 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125412 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:48 am to
Casino is one place they won't water down free drinks
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:50 am to
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People who have left bars drunk and been at fault in accidents have sued and won similar cases


Except this isn't similar to that.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81209 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:54 am to
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Casino is one place they won't water down free drinks



They don't water them down, but (at least here in BR) you can't get doubles or anything.

L'Auberge has a liquor gun instead of free-poured liquor. It pours 7/8 of a shot. If you want it to be "strong", get it in a short glass. Otherwise you're drinking a tall glass of mixer with 7/8 shot in it.

Of course, if you're a good tipper, the waitress will order your drink and then order 1-2 shots of whatever your liquor is on the side and she'll dump them into your drink.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:03 am to
If it is the law in Nevada that casinos can't allow drunk people to gamble then he is indeed entitled to his $500k. Good luck proving you were drunk, though.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:05 am to
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Hope he wins, I'll have a lot of suits to file
This would set a dangerous precedent for sure.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:07 am to
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Hmmm...this is like the some of those cases where women claim rape because things didn't go their way and they made a big mistake.


And it holds up in many cases with them, pretty legit defense IMO.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33957 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:15 am to
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People who have left bars drunk and been at fault in accidents have sued and won similar cases


Except this isn't similar to that.


The similar point is blaming someone for over serving and saying they are the cause of "x".
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:23 am to
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The question I have is did the plaintiff "measure" how drunk he was? Documented?


Women don't have to prove how drunk they were when they're "raped" after drinking too much. Just need a few people to say he was tanked, maybe even video of him stumbling around.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23432 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:23 am to
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People who have left bars drunk and been at fault in accidents have sued and won similar cases


Not in Louisiana, we have an anti-dram shop act.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8065 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:42 am to
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I've been at casinos before where I have seen them refuse to give a marker (additional credit for high rollers the casino has vetted and is comfortable they have plenty to pay for the marker) when the person was really drunk.


Yep. I have told the cage on multiple occasions to not give a guest another marker at 3am when they called me, if they don't take no for an answer I've either had to drive to casino or usually get the Casino Manager on duty to handle it. Sometimes my boss would question me, but I felt it was the right thing to do.

Most cases the next morning the guest thanks me, some have called me and cussed me and threaten to go to another property but they end up passing out hahah. It happens.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82365 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:21 am to
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Except this isn't similar to that.

How is this not similar?
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