re: This team will make the elite 8

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How are you able to with your head so far up Les's arse?

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Lol. A reply like this lets me know you have no legit argument.
Also, its a shame that you cant post FACTS and positive things about Miles' tenure, without being labeled a Miles apologist.
Stating FACTS is not kissing arse. ITS CALLED REALITY

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Mickey averages a whole 3 points more than Tyrus did.

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and he wasn't sharing the floor with martin, probably the best 6'10" swing man in the college game. 

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Youre right. he was sharing the floor with the SEC PLAYER OF THE YEAR/1st Team All-American(Davis) and an all sec pg (DMitch).

Just give it up. That 2006 team was final four talented. This team may not make the damn tourney.

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Temple has been in the NBA every year since he left lsu. TQ and Hornsby wont play in the nba

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friend, this conversation isn't about the nba. tq/hornsby, imo, are a much better guard combo than temple and mitchell. tq can handle the ball way better than either of his '06 counterparts. hornsby is at least as good from the outside as mitchell and definitely better in the paint. not to mention the height disparity. this really isn't close. the pair we have now are clearly better. plus, you have no idea what tq/hornsby will do in the league.

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DMitch was 1st team all sec in 2006.

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i'll say it again, mitchell might not even crack the top 4 guards we have now. he was about as good as patterson is overall and patterson is squarely a bench player for lsu. he can't run the point as good as gray. he can't defend like tq. his best asset, outside shooting is only slightly better than the crew we have now including gray. dmitch was one of my favorite players but, he's not in the same league as these guys.

if you don't think tq is a better overall player than temple, i can't help you. tq is much much better offensively and he can defend really well.

look, the '06 squad had some surprise talent, 3 underrated bench players and had a special season. but this team that jones has assembled definitely has more talent on paper, especially at guard.

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now add the even better guards that this current team has and you see how much better mickey is offensively 

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They arent better. DMitch was all sec. TQ nor hornsby will be that.
I cant believe youre even arguing this. 2006 was talented enough to make the final four. This team may not make the ncaa tourney.

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s is exactly what i thought. your argument is completely flawed because you are 1. looking at nba experience 2. looking at season ending results

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We are talking about TALENT. There are statistics or individual achievements that put this year's guards above 2006.
You are the only dumbass that would say a final four team has less talent that a team struggling to beat mediocre sec teams.
This year's team doesn't come close.
2006- Davis 1st team all American and sec player of the year.
NO PLAYER ON THIS YEAR'S TEAM WILL COME CLOSE TO THAT.
DMitch was 1st team all sec
NO GUARD ON THIS YEAR'S ROSTER WILL COME CLOSE.
Tyrus Thomas was SEC DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the year and a Freshman All American
No player on this year's team will come close to that.

You and maybe 2 other idiots would even suggest this year's team is more talented.
And yes i look at NBA because the NBA drafts on talent.

Only an idiot would say a final four team is less talented than a team struggling to beat mediocre sec teams.

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i'll say it again, mitchell might not even crack the top 4 guards we have now

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Youre stupid.

Dmitch was 1st all sec. There is nothing to support your argument except an opinion.
My argument is backed up BY FACTS. This year's team is struggling to beat average sec teams. 2006 lsu went 14-2 in a deeper sec.


Yeah DMitch wouldn't start over Hornsby or quarterman. Quarterman cant beat out Grey but he would beat out the 2006 All sec DMITCH. Wow

I just read the last three pages...entertaining at the very least.

Both have valid points, but one thing is for sure. Quarterman is a better basketball player than Temple. Temple was definitely the better defender, but Quarterman is more versatile and a better overall player.

Tyrus was bigger, more athletic, and an even greater distractor on defense. Neither have a jumper. Slight edge to TT.

Agreed, Davis would score at will inside. His post moves are superior compared to Mickey or Martin.
ETA: I agree with bfniii regarding guard play.

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mitchell might not even be in the top 4 of this year's guards. FIVE ELEVEN.

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What does his height have to do with it.. Mitchell was a much better playmaker and outside shooter than Any guard LSU has right now.

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better coaches (the other 63 teams in the tourney),

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So I guess YOU can do better???????

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LSU runs no sets 90% of the time and just relies on its players to figure something out.

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90% of the teams in the country do this....

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LSU will either match up against teams that have bigger players (UK, Duke, etc.),

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is when they will meet teams like UK and Duke.....
For them to be playing in the elite