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re: This team will make the elite 8

Posted on 1/25/15 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 3:40 pm to
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we're far from loaded with talent
not true at all

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Gray isn't that good
he's quite good and everybody needs to give him some time to get adjusted. what team has the juco scoring leader coming off the bench? not many

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TQ has improved and is good, Hornsby is ok
good grief. if you think this then every other team in the conference freakin horrible.

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Patterson is good, not great
what teams have a better guard on the bench?

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Our bench is shallow
very untrue if you follow recruiting at all

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I just wouldn't call that "loaded"
because you probably don't follow recruiting
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 3:41 pm to
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not deep. good starting team
the only team in the conference with more talent is ky. that means lsu has top 2 talent. so, if you think this then the sec is really really horrible.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 3:44 pm to
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on paper, it looks clear to me that this team is more talented than that team.
You should really quit while you are behind. When you put them all together on one roster, I am not sure that anyone on this year's team makes the starting lineup.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:00 pm to
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I am not sure that anyone on this year's team makes the starting lineup.
what in the heck.

this year's guards are way better than '06. let's just say hornsby and d. mitchell cancel each other out (although mitchell was 5'11" and hornsby is 6'4"). let's say tq and temple cancel each other out (although tq is definitely a better all around player). who on '06 beats out the combination patterson and gray? tack minor and ben voogd?!? hilarious.

mickey is a better all around player than tyrus. who beats out martin? davis? no way. what would baby do when martin pops the 3 or takes the ball from the point and drives?

taz would be an interesting matchup problem for this year's team but, bridgewater isn't terribly dissimilar in his game.

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You should really quit while you are behind
you should just quit period and i'm not "behind". as far as a starting roster, some of the '06 starters would have a lot of trouble vs this year's players. this year's starters are more well rounded although the '06 team played better team defense.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18141 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:01 pm to
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he's quite good and everybody needs to give him [Gray] some time to get adjusted.


Good lord. Gray is a junior and we're more than halfway through the season. How much more "adjustment time" do you want to give him?

Basketball isn't like football. Young freshman can contribute immediately. Blaming Gray's poor play on "adjusting" is just excuse making.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:10 pm to
There is no one on LSU's team this year that you would start at the point over Mitchell.

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who on '06 beats out the combination patterson and gray?
Anyone and anyone's mom.

You would be hard pressed to say that TQ is difinitively better than Temple, although he could get there.

Then let's go to the frontcourt, which was one of the best in the country and could muscle anyone inside. Mickey and Martin would foul out before halftime.
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who beats out martin? davis? no way. what would baby do when martin pops the 3 or takes the ball from the point and drives?
The same thing that other teams do today, nothing. He has been good of late, but you would be a bad coach if you let him do that all night.

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taz would be an interesting matchup problem for this year's team but, bridgewater isn't terribly dissimilar in his game.
Now I know you're trolling.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Gray is a junior
not all from the sec. seriously?

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How much more "adjustment time" do you want to give him?
he's played in 6, count em, 6 sec games. it's a little early to pronounce judgement on him wouldn't you say?

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Blaming Gray's poor play on "adjusting" is just excuse making
he still has time to improve and contribute
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:55 pm to
Just stop.

The 2006 lineup of Davis, Thomas, Temple, Mitchell, andLazare/Rolle would destroy this year's starting 5.i cant believe you would even argue otherwise. Mitchell is better than any guard on our team this year. Davis and Thomas would own martin and Mickey down low.

ETA: TQ IS NOT better than Garrett Temple. Wow
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Jtigers99
Holly Beach, USA
Member since Dec 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:11 pm to
You're acting like Thomas and Temple were good offensive players. TQ and Mickey blow them out of the water offensively.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:11 pm to
Disagree completely. We would have 4 first rounders and a possible fifth in gray or QUARTERMAN
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:13 pm to
I agree temple is better than Q this year. But Q has a much higher ceiling. Which is a good thing since temple is a journeyman NBA player.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:26 pm to
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You're acting like Thomas and Temple were good offensive player

Mickey averages a whole 3 points more than Tyrus did.
thomas was decent offensively and more athletic than anyone on this year's team.
Temple was one the best defensive guards lsu has ever had.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:28 pm to
Also Tyrus made the freshman all American team and was sec co defensive player of the year.
Posted by Jtigers99
Holly Beach, USA
Member since Dec 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:29 pm to
Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington disagree.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:33 pm to
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Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington disagree.



Even the best defenders in the history of the NBA get lit up from time to time. Do you watch basketball?
Posted by Jtigers99
Holly Beach, USA
Member since Dec 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:37 pm to
How are you able to with your head so far up Les's arse?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:43 pm to
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The 2006 lineup of Davis, Thomas, Temple, Mitchell, andLazare/Rolle would destroy this year's starting 5
first, so you're going to play 6 players the entire game? because if you are, they're going to be gassed with 10 mins left and that proves this team has a better bench. second, temple and mitchell vs tq/hornsby? that's a push at best but i think '14 takes that. pal, mitchell was FIVE ELEVEN. hornsby is SIX FOUR. hornsby has proven he can score tough points in the paint. that is not something dmitch could do.

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Mitchell is better than any guard on our team this year
mitchell might not even be in the top 4 of this year's guards. FIVE ELEVEN.

Keith Hornsby 6-4
Josh Gray 6-1
Jalyn Patterson 6-0
Tim Quarterman 6-6

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TQ IS NOT better than Garrett Temple
offensively, it's not even in question. tq is MUCH better. defensively, temple gets the nod but not by much. tq is the better player.

the '06 bench was underrated, i'll give them that. but this bench has several players that were highly recruited. i think this team gets the slight edge in frontcourt and an overwhelming edge in guards.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:48 pm to
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Mickey averages a whole 3 points more than Tyrus did.
and he wasn't sharing the floor with martin, probably the best 6'10" swing man in the college game.

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thomas was decent offensively and more athletic than anyone on this year's team.
he wasn't "more athletic" than martin and he's not even a clearly better shot blocker than mickey who is leading the conference.

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Temple was one the best defensive guards lsu has ever had.
and yet tq is even better overall and has been coming off the BENCH
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10496 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:49 pm to
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This team will make the elite 8

Elite 8 of the SEC?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:51 pm to
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Mitchell is better than any guard on our team this year
in no universe could dmitch pull off a play like the baseline dunk that tq had at ole miss. that was plain nasty.
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