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Jordan would have put up better numbers in today's NBA. T or F?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:47 am
I hear this a lot because of rule changes like hand-checking. But is it true? Are there stats to back it up?
I'm sure there are many players who played through both eras.
Did their stats significantly increase?
I'm sure there are many players who played through both eras.
Did their stats significantly increase?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:53 am to PrimeTime Money
kobe's have decreased
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:58 am to oleyeller
Partially because he's been past prime though, yeah?
Less defense in today's game so I would think his numbers increase but who knows.
Less defense in today's game so I would think his numbers increase but who knows.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:59 am to PrimeTime Money
In his prime, I think he would have similar numbers.
I think his game would translate and that he would do very well. I do not think he would step in and average 40 to 50 points.
I mean I suppose he could but it would come at the expense of his team, just like with any other superstar player.
I think his game would translate and that he would do very well. I do not think he would step in and average 40 to 50 points.
I mean I suppose he could but it would come at the expense of his team, just like with any other superstar player.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:00 am to quail man
quote:From what I'm seeing, points per game has gone down.
Less defense in today's game
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:05 am to boom roasted
I think his numbers would be about the same if not a little lower.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:28 am to Goldrush25
when Jordan was getting out the Euros were just coming in... now the league is deeper than ever on defense
also Jordan never faced D aided by computers like they are now, with analysis of his hot spots and shot charts
also Jordan never faced D aided by computers like they are now, with analysis of his hot spots and shot charts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:31 am to PrimeTime Money
Yeah there was hand-checking and most physical play but you forget Jordan got away with basically everything.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:37 am to quail man
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Less defense in today's game so I would think his numbers increase but who knows.
I don't really follow basketball all that much, but I seem to recall hearing that defense was less during his time. It was more physical, but there were differences in rules and legal defenses that allowed for higher score games. I heard it argued that was part of the rejuvenation during that period. Or maybe that was the period really early in Jordan's career or just before.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:42 am to goldenbadger08
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Yeah there was hand-checking and most physical play but you forget Jordan got away with basically everything.
Hand-checking was done away with in the 70's
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:47 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Hand-checking was done away with in the 70's
He is also about twelve years old, so there is a strong possibility Jordan retired when he was an infant.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:55 am to FightinTigersDammit
quote:That is incorrect.
Hand-checking was done away with in the 70's
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:21 am to PrimeTime Money
Less in my opinion. Less athletic defenders and Jordan's style was not as common back then with the way he attacked the basket off the dribble from the wing.
Also, what were league averages in points per game back then? Seems like there were a lot more 120-118 type games in the mid to late 80s. Also think defenses were less physical until the end of the decade when people tried to adopt Detroit's style after 89.
Also, what were league averages in points per game back then? Seems like there were a lot more 120-118 type games in the mid to late 80s. Also think defenses were less physical until the end of the decade when people tried to adopt Detroit's style after 89.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:27 am to bigpetedatiga
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In his prime, I think he would have similar numbers.
He would dominate by todays standards... BUT the Chicago teams he were on[aside from Pippen] would get creamed by a team like the Spurs. To much quality depth on most teams that are now way better athletes.......
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:27 am to PrimeTime Money
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Hand-checking was done away with in the 70's
That is incorrect.
The original hand-checking rules were passed in the 1970's and put guys like Norn van Lier and Jerry Sloan out of business.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:40 am to chalmetteowl
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also Jordan never faced D aided by computers like they are now, with analysis of his hot spots and shot charts
I don't need a computer to tell me Jordan is going to take a turn around jumper/fade from the elbow/wing
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:42 am to PrimeTime Money
jordan would be at the free throw line the entire game
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:13 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:They did make changes to the rule in the 70's but hand-checking was not eliminated in the 70's.
The original hand-checking rules were passed in the 1970's and put guys like Norn van Lier and Jerry Sloan out of business.
It wasn't eliminated until sometime in the 90's. I think the late 90's.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:15 pm to PrimeTime Money
early jordan would have been forced to take more jumpers, but i see him getting $$$ at the line as well. similar stats, but fewer FGA and more FTA and better efficiency stats
i think older jordan would have had some issues dealing with the defenses on an individual level. his post-fade would be tough against advanced modern Ds with their rotations and how iso it was
i think older jordan would have had some issues dealing with the defenses on an individual level. his post-fade would be tough against advanced modern Ds with their rotations and how iso it was
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:15 pm to brgfather129
Jordan retired when I was an infant
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