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If we miss on Shoop and Pendergrast and promoted Haley
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:31 pm
I am officially off the Miles support group. I am mad at Alleva, but would be more disappointed in Miles answer to this challenge.
I love Miles, but he needs Top Tier Coaches around him. That was proven in 08 with the Co DC experiment.
He has made solid hires in the past, but I think the situation has handcuffed him with the assistants already signed.
But you're the leader of an Elite program...How do you respond to being embarrassed by Chavis and your AD?
Miles isn't pissed enough, doesn't have enough fight to care anymore. You have 1.3 Million to pony up to someone with great credentials... and you end up with Brick Haley? Give me a break
So I am done with them if this is end result... and I hope Coach O kicks his arse on the recruiting trail
the offense is frustrating enough, now we have to worry about the freaking defense as well?
Let's get this marriage over with (2 seasons), I am done watching this plane crash...
I love Miles, but he needs Top Tier Coaches around him. That was proven in 08 with the Co DC experiment.
He has made solid hires in the past, but I think the situation has handcuffed him with the assistants already signed.
But you're the leader of an Elite program...How do you respond to being embarrassed by Chavis and your AD?
Miles isn't pissed enough, doesn't have enough fight to care anymore. You have 1.3 Million to pony up to someone with great credentials... and you end up with Brick Haley? Give me a break
So I am done with them if this is end result... and I hope Coach O kicks his arse on the recruiting trail
the offense is frustrating enough, now we have to worry about the freaking defense as well?
Let's get this marriage over with (2 seasons), I am done watching this plane crash...
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:33 pm to ApexTiger
Alleva has to go first
He can't be around for a HC hire
He can't be around for a HC hire
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:33 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:34 pm to ApexTiger
Hate to say it, but I totally agree with you. Have a sad sinking feeling we are about to go through a pretty bad period for LSU.
Thanks Alleva and Miles!
Thanks Alleva and Miles!
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:39 pm to ApexTiger
Look I am far from a pumper, but we don't know what kind of salary les has been given to find a replacement.
JA could have given miles 900k/year to get Shoop for all we know. Chavis had won a NC as a coordinator previously to the LSU job.
Alleva could be the one blocking the firing of Haley due to a buyout.
If this whole process has taught me anything from the time chief left to now is that miles no longer has the support he used to from the AD's office. Otherwise, they would have given the chief what he wanted.
That can be a scary thing for other coaches. Alleva may want les to ride or die with who he has right now. Alleva may not want to buy Haley out so we could get Pendergrast. Joe may be forcing miles to play with the hand he's dealt from here on out.
JA could have given miles 900k/year to get Shoop for all we know. Chavis had won a NC as a coordinator previously to the LSU job.
Alleva could be the one blocking the firing of Haley due to a buyout.
If this whole process has taught me anything from the time chief left to now is that miles no longer has the support he used to from the AD's office. Otherwise, they would have given the chief what he wanted.
That can be a scary thing for other coaches. Alleva may want les to ride or die with who he has right now. Alleva may not want to buy Haley out so we could get Pendergrast. Joe may be forcing miles to play with the hand he's dealt from here on out.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:41 pm to Barry Badrinath
If that is the case, then Alleva is no friend of the Program
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:41 pm to ApexTiger
Fire alleva in the spring and Fire miles when Haley sucks
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:48 pm to ApexTiger
Alleva needs to fricking go and someone needs to step in and give Miles money he needs to hire a DC, or scrap the current defensive staff and get CP.
We know TAF has money, fricking use it and stop nickel and diming viable candidates.
We know TAF has money, fricking use it and stop nickel and diming viable candidates.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:52 pm to ibldprplgld
Alleva is a joke.....talk to any of the coaches behind closed doors. Who in the hell is this guy, and why does taf not run his arse?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:57 pm to ApexTiger
Certain people will defend Les to no end on here and continue to try and put all the blame on Alleva, but while he deserves significant criticism, Miles is just as much to blame.
In the end, I think people need not panic just yet, but this defense will be worse than the 2008 defense if Haley is promoted. We'd have Peveto back at LBer coach basically and Haley's DL recruits have struggled to develop with him entirely focusing on the position. I fear even with him moving up and getting Orgeron for DL coach would result in horrible LBer development.
In the end, if Miles doesn't hold the University and his assistants jobs hostage with his intent on keeping his name in the UM coaching job ring, then likely none of this happens.
In the end, I think people need not panic just yet, but this defense will be worse than the 2008 defense if Haley is promoted. We'd have Peveto back at LBer coach basically and Haley's DL recruits have struggled to develop with him entirely focusing on the position. I fear even with him moving up and getting Orgeron for DL coach would result in horrible LBer development.
In the end, if Miles doesn't hold the University and his assistants jobs hostage with his intent on keeping his name in the UM coaching job ring, then likely none of this happens.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:05 pm to Geauxgurt
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In the end, if Miles doesn't hold the University and his assistants jobs hostage with his intent on keeping his name in the UM coaching job ring, then likely none of this happens.
And guess what, if that's indeed what got us into this mess, Alleva could fix it by PAYING A DC.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:08 pm to Geauxgurt
dont we know O would take the job? so wouldnt we take that path over BH?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:12 pm to omegaman66
Let's look around the conference shall we?
1. Auburn just hired Boom
2. Alabama has Kirby and Nick Saban
3. A$M just hire our guy
4. The guy at Arkansas can coach
5. Are we even 5th our Division with Haley?
MSU just hired Diaz, at least that dude has failure to draw from...
So LSU is way down the list with Brick Haley
so yeah we are going to be pissed at Alleva and Miles if this is the end result and it's looking that way
1. Auburn just hired Boom
2. Alabama has Kirby and Nick Saban
3. A$M just hire our guy
4. The guy at Arkansas can coach
5. Are we even 5th our Division with Haley?
MSU just hired Diaz, at least that dude has failure to draw from...
So LSU is way down the list with Brick Haley
so yeah we are going to be pissed at Alleva and Miles if this is the end result and it's looking that way
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:23 pm to ibldprplgld
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And guess what, if that's indeed what got us into this mess, Alleva could fix it by PAYING A DC.
So because of Les' shenanigans and apparent lack of loyalty to LSU, Alleva should overpay a DC hire? Sorry, but that is a ridiculous notion.
This likely is all solved by Les stating one sentence: "I am not interested in being Michigan's coach," but he couldn't even do that. Instead to keep his name in the ring and as some claimed "not hurt his alma mater", he hurt his current employer. Sounds like a loyal and great guy.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:26 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:oh he did that.
This likely is all solved by Les stating one sentence: "I am not interested in being Michigan's coach," but he couldn't even do that.
just not publicly.
which made no sense.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:29 pm to Geauxgurt
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So because of Les' shenanigans and apparent lack of loyalty to LSU, Alleva should overpay a DC hire? Sorry, but that is a ridiculous notion.
This likely is all solved by Les stating one sentence: "I am not interested in being Michigan's coach," but he couldn't even do that. Instead to keep his name in the ring and as some claimed "not hurt his alma mater", he hurt his current employer. Sounds like a loyal and great guy.
Hate to break it to you bud, but Alleva is nickel and diming us to a substandard hire. "Overpaying" isn't the term for paying someone fair market value and that's set by other DC's earnings.
Looks to me like he did just that, but most called it a smoke screen.
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Miles refused to be quoted on the record in the post-practice chat with reporters, but he sent a clear message: A return to Ann Arbor is not going to happen. He and his agent, George Bass, have not heard from Michigan, Miles said, and he would not change jobs even if Michigan made contact.
Miles also has told LSU athletic officials that he has not been contacted by Michigan and that he has no intention of leaving the Tigers, LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette said.
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:30 pm to The Egg
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oh he did that.
just not publicly.
which made no sense.
If this is what he did, then he screwed LSU even worse.
I don't blame Les for having interest in his alma mater's open position, but he again put them above his current job and possibly resulted in significant damage to LSU.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:32 pm to ibldprplgld
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Looks to me like he did just that, but most called it a smoke screen.
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Ummm...No. It is not embarrassing to UM if Miles had publicly proclaimed he is happy where he is. He had every reason to stay at LSU, and Michigan was almost certainly not even interested in him.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:37 pm to Geauxgurt
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Ummm...No.
Not sure why you're arguing his actual statement?? Miles not once, ever said he was interested in the UM position. He said he had no intentions of leaving BR even if Michigan initiated contact.
We aren't in this mess because of Miles' alleged flirtation with UM or his lack of loyalty to LSU.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:47 pm to ibldprplgld
So it has to be Alleva's fault because he was refusing to give the coaches guaranteed contracts if Les should leave?
Either there was some serious worry he may not be back, or you are calling a Alleva and the BOS idiots since they have to approve the contracts.
Do you think Bonnette is going to tell the media "les is saying he's interested in the job, but won't publicly allow his statement to be quoted"?
Either there was some serious worry he may not be back, or you are calling a Alleva and the BOS idiots since they have to approve the contracts.
Do you think Bonnette is going to tell the media "les is saying he's interested in the job, but won't publicly allow his statement to be quoted"?
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