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7 Things I Can Do That My Black Son Can’t

Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:07 am
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:07 am
This shite is on Yahoo right now. Such a STUPID STUPID column. He talks about "racism" holding his son back and gives us a list.

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1. I Can Walk Through a Store Without Being Followed
Um, that's not racism. That's experience. No, they don't think ALL blacks are thieves but just like experience tells the cat to pay more attention to the large dog than to the Pomeranian......

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2. I Can Succeed Without It Being Attributed to My Race

Not racism. Hell, half the people who will say this to a black person are BLACK! IE, even they know that quotas and "goals" are huge drivers.

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3. I Learned About My Ancestors’ History in School

I think at this point, it's pretty obvious this dude doesn't know what "racism" is.

The list doesn't improve from there. It's just a pathetic white guilt trip through and through.

An absurdity.


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Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:11 am to
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I always wondered when we would finally learn about African history (beyond Pharaohs and pyramids).


Moron
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:17 am to
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I always wondered when we would finally learn about African history (beyond Pharaohs and pyramids).


Moron

Yep. Here's a newsflash to his guilty guilty guilty self.

American schools also don't cover much Aussie history. Or Indonesian. And, I'll bet if one goes to Uganda, you won't find a whole lot about the Mayflower in their history books.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:33 am to
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In my experience, white people (and straight people, and male people, and Christian people — all groups of which I’m a member) tend to dismiss the notion that we’re privileged.


Except that we are not. We are an ethnic group that raise our children better and instill more sense of responsibility in them than far too many black families. That privilege is not bestowed, it is earned, and even then it doesn't always help...I am literally being held out of a promotion at work right now because this place is hell bent on promoting a minority first.

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But when you’re a parent, those privileges stop being invisible. It’s the reason why male congressmen with daughters are more likely to support women’s issues.


Nope, that's a media expectation and you will be skewered if you don't fall in line.

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5. I Can Loiter in Wealthy Neighborhoods No one has ever called the cops on me to report a “suspicious person.” My wife can’t say the same.


Horse shite. I live in a neighborhood of nosy fricks who call the police on suspicious characters all the time. A better question is why would anyone be loitering in a place where they do not live?

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6. I Can Complain About Racism When I point out that black people are incarcerated at alarming rates, or largely forced to send their children to underperforming schools, or face systemic discrimination when searching for jobs and housing, no one accuses me of “playing the race card.”


He won't acknowledge why black schools are shitty schools, and therefore he's a piece of shite playing the race card.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:37 am to
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send their children to underperforming schools
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He won't acknowledge why black schools are shitty schools, and therefore he's a piece of shite playing the race card.


Yep. There's no such thing as an "underperforming" school. Schools are inanimate objects.

The "underperformers" are the folks inside the school and who goes to the school is a HUGE driver of that underperformance. When my daughter arrived to her Kindergarten class, almost 75% of the Kindergartners tested well into the 1st grade in their first month of school. People call her school a "good school" but they really mean "place where properly raised children attend".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:38 am to
i really don't get the "i never learned about my people's history in schools". we're a western nation and a former colony of a western nation. we learn plenty about our country's origins as well as a lot of latino history (because it overlaps with our story)

on top of that, africa has no real history to speak of because sub saharan africa didn't really have a written language when it was colonized. there is not a history to be told because what history exists was lost, for the most part.

asia has a rich history that is oft-ignored because it really doesn't have much overlap with our country's history, or that of its former colonial masters. it's covered in world history classes, but that is obviously a summary.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24238 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:41 am to
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People call her school a "good school" but they really mean "place where properly raised children attend".


Bingo. Those schools are shite because the parents of the kids are shite, and the kids have no expectations placed on them for good performance.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:42 am to
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i really don't get the "i never learned about my people's history in schools". we're a western nation and a former colony of a western nation. we learn plenty about our country's origins as well as a lot of latino history (because it overlaps with our story)


Yep. And hey, there are even instances where history unfavorable to blacks is glossed over or ignored.

Want to get a blank stare from someone talking about slavery. As them how we got the slaves? With RARE exception, I've found that if I say, "so, how did the U.S. get the slaves? Did the U.S. send an Army unit to go capture them?........it's blank stare time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:43 am to
by and large, whether a school is good or bad is reflective of the student population. if you say this, real liberal-progressives pull the YOU'RE INSULTING CHILDREN card to avoid the issues. often moderate liberal-progressives will admit it's the fault of the parent, but then they just shift the blame saying it was THEIR parent's fault.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:46 am to
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Bingo. Those schools are shite because the parents of the kids are shite, and the kids have no expectations placed on them for good performance.

I very recently had a conversation that flat out hurt my brain with one of these "good schools/bad schools" people.

The high school near me had more than 25% of its senior class score better than 30 on the ACT. Not 25% of those taking it, 25% of the whole class.

He asserted that the way to get the underperforming school not far away to do that would be simply to have the same caliber of teachers with the same approach. I clarified. I asked him, so, you're asserting that if we could somehow just 100% switch students that we would get the "good" results from the other batch of students? He confidently said "yes".

He genuinely believed the ONLY factor in the underperformance was that the state "doesn't care" about that other school because of who goes there.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:48 am to
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5. I Can Loiter in Wealthy Neighborhoods No one has ever called the cops on me to report a “suspicious person.” My wife can’t say the same.


I can loiter in a poor, black neighborhood and the police will be very likely to ask what I am doing there. Is that racism too?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50236 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:50 am to
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Want to get a blank stare from someone talking about slavery. As them how we got the slaves? With RARE exception, I've found that if I say, "so, how did the U.S. get the slaves? Did the U.S. send an Army unit to go capture them?........it's blank stare time.


On that note...

Several weeks ago, I read an article stating that, at this point in history, only 4% of the overall number of slaves sold by Africans went to the US.

4%!

I wanted to link that article here, but I've lost interest in "debate" on this board.


It was pretty well documented where the other 96% went.

Naturally, I wondered what those countries were doing to sooth the feelings of the ancestors of those slaves. My guess is that it is not nearly what we do here in the US, considering how racist many of the other countries were that these slaves were sold to.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:50 am to
That guy is 100% part of the problem.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24238 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:51 am to
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I can loiter in a poor, black neighborhood and the police will be very likely to ask what I am doing there. Is that racism too?


Not sure, but you're immediately guilty of looking to buy drugs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:52 am to
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He asserted that the way to get the underperforming school not far away to do that would be simply to have the same caliber of teachers with the same approach. I clarified. I asked him, so, you're asserting that if we could somehow just 100% switch students that we would get the "good" results from the other batch of students? He confidently said "yes".

He genuinely believed the ONLY factor in the underperformance was that the state "doesn't care" about that other school because of who goes there.

you'll never change the mind of these people

what's fricked up is that while the shite schools have a ton of lazy-bad teachers, they also often have people who give 10x the fricks as most suburban schools. many energetic young people go and bust their arse only to be ground down by the pervasive, terrible culture of the student population
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24238 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:53 am to
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by and large, whether a school is good or bad is reflective of the student population. if you say this, real liberal-progressives pull the YOU'RE INSULTING CHILDREN card to avoid the issues. often moderate liberal-progressives will admit it's the fault of the parent, but then they just shift the blame saying it was THEIR parent's fault.


Look, there are shitty teachers floating around school systems, but they are much fewer and far between than the parents that negatively impact their child's school by not giving a shite what their child does at school.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24238 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:54 am to
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they also often have people who give 10x the fricks as most suburban schools. many energetic young people go and bust their arse only to be ground down by the pervasive, terrible culture of the student population


I can't upvote, +1 this statement enough.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50236 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:55 am to
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Not sure, but you're immediately guilty of looking to buy drugs.


Yup.

Had this happen to me in college when I had long hair and was dropping off a black coworker at their home in the hood. Got pulled over and questioned for well over 30 minutes.

This was a separate incident from the time I was pulled over and my GF at the time was sexually harassed for over an hour (shared this story here a while back).

But hey, profiling only happens to races other than white.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421612 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:56 am to
i had a weak teacher (in a really good public school) for calculus AP. the amazing teacher who had taught the class for like 10 years left to teach at a middle school that her son just became old enough to attend, so we got a replacement who had never taught calculus before. the new teacher still used the advanced/tough tests of the prior teacher. she was not capable of teaching the material at the level necessary for us students to succeed when taking those tests

what did we do? teach ourselves calculus in conjunction with what small morsels we got from class
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24238 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:00 am to
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what did we do? teach ourselves calculus in conjunction with what small morsels we got from class


Well, this touches on a more fundamental change that needs to take place in education. It would be far cheaper to scrap public schools as they are today and allow kids just to Khan Academy, or something similar, their way through school. You could have the best teachers in the world create lessons / lectures online, students can learn at their own pace, and it would cost a fraction of public education today...even with the government providing computers and Internet access to poor households.

And you don't have to expose kids that want to learn to kids that only want to wreak havoc.

And everyone's education would be on equal fricking ground, no more accusations of unfair educational opportunities.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 9:02 am
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