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Elvin Hayes-most overlooked player on Top 10 scorers list in NBA history?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:22 pm
Guy averaged FORTY plus minutes a game for 9 years and 39 another. Anyway you cut it that's a hardcore athlete.Tremendous rebounder. world champ.
From Louisiana, played ball at Houston. Played into the 80s- Yet is rarely mentioned on this board?
Is just the lack of love for bigs, the fact that he played in a down time for the NBA (70s) played his pro career on the West Coast and Washington or something else?
Moses Malone is another guy ignored a lot, but all these old school basketball fans who love Pistol Pete (and I get that it's mostly LSU love, shite their dad/granddad say) rarely mention this guy despite him winning NCAA player of the year while Pistol and Kareem were running around.
So what gives?
From Louisiana, played ball at Houston. Played into the 80s- Yet is rarely mentioned on this board?
Is just the lack of love for bigs, the fact that he played in a down time for the NBA (70s) played his pro career on the West Coast and Washington or something else?
Moses Malone is another guy ignored a lot, but all these old school basketball fans who love Pistol Pete (and I get that it's mostly LSU love, shite their dad/granddad say) rarely mention this guy despite him winning NCAA player of the year while Pistol and Kareem were running around.
So what gives?
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 12:23 pm
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:41 pm to RonBurgundy
That whole era of big men save for Kareem is overlooked. How often are Wes Unseld or Jack Sikma discussed?
I think an issue with Hayes is that he shot just 45% from the field as a PF/C.
I think an issue with Hayes is that he shot just 45% from the field as a PF/C.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:18 pm to RonBurgundy
I remember him well. He was a total black hole, like K Malone, and Adrian Dantley, once the ball was thrown into him, it never came back out. I didn't like that about his game but, he put up some solid numbers.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:43 pm to eddieray
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I remember him well. He was a total black hole, like K Malone, and Adrian Dantley, once the ball was thrown into him, it never came back out. I didn't like that about his game but, he put up some solid numbers.
Karl Malone was one of the best passing big men ever definitely an arse hole but anything but a black hole.
Dantley, Hayes, and young Olajuwan were "black holes".
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:57 pm to eddieray
I think Bill Simmons does a good job of torpedoing Hayes as a Great-Great, in his book of basketball.
I remember Hayes being partially responsible for the first 'MVP MVP' chant, in '79. Reprehensible shite, IMHO, as that stuff plagues us to this day. For most of his career, players voted on the league MVP-- and he never finished higher than 3rd -- and only finished in the top 6 three times.
Still, the Bill Fitch-Ralph Sampson thing from the '84 season sort of encapsulates what was thought of Hayes in NBA circles-- Fitch told his young star to stay away from 'that no good F-ing prick'; hardly a ringing endorsement of the legendary Elvin Hayes.
I remember Hayes being partially responsible for the first 'MVP MVP' chant, in '79. Reprehensible shite, IMHO, as that stuff plagues us to this day. For most of his career, players voted on the league MVP-- and he never finished higher than 3rd -- and only finished in the top 6 three times.
Still, the Bill Fitch-Ralph Sampson thing from the '84 season sort of encapsulates what was thought of Hayes in NBA circles-- Fitch told his young star to stay away from 'that no good F-ing prick'; hardly a ringing endorsement of the legendary Elvin Hayes.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:21 pm to RonBurgundy
Who?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 3:24 pm to RonBurgundy
Elvin Hayes is the greatest frickin basketball player that ever lived
who hailed from beautiful, sunny Rayvegas LA.
who hailed from beautiful, sunny Rayvegas LA.
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 4:27 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Dantley, Hayes, and young Olajuwan were "black holes".
Don't forget Ewing.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 4:27 pm to mattz1122
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Jack Sikma
One of my favorite players
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:15 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Karl Malone
Yes, he was a good passer bu didn't do much of it from the low post. Not knocking him, just reminds me of big E in that way
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:42 pm to eddieray
Too bad LSU was too racist to recruit him.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:26 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
The Big E and Don Chaney were the first two blacks to play ball for the University of Hurston.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:45 am to LSUballs
And wasn't Chaney from baton Rouge?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:21 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Yep. His cousin Lon Chaney Jr was an Okie.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:58 am to LSUballs
McKinley? Shaneful of LSU
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