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re: How did we lose 3 games in 2001 with a team loaded with nfl players?

Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:56 pm to
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. Is the goal to accumulate the most wins or is the goal to win the hardware


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Give me consistent success over Boom-or-Bust. Personal preference. 


Usually one is dependent on the other, FWIW
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:01 pm to
I think you're being far too harsh on Miles. It doesn't matter, because no one in this thread is likely going to change stances due to someone else's input.

There are many different camps when it comes to Miles and even Saban:

1) Miles has accomplished more than any other coach at LSU

2) Miles may have accomplished a lot, but what have you done for me lately

3) Miles is a great recruiter and I love him for that, but he cannot coach

4) Miles is an idiot and LSU is going nowhere with him

5) Nick Saban is proving at Alabama just how much better he is than Miles



I am not a huge Miles lover by any means. If you take out the 2009 season and the NC game of 2012, I may think he's the greatest coach since Paul D. Nevertheless, PJ...if you were AD and you could make a decision after the bowl game, would you fire Miles? After you answer yes, who would you replace him with?
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202665 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:05 pm to
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1) Miles has accomplished more than any other coach at LSU


I agree....


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2) Miles may have accomplished a lot, but what have you done for me lately


Again Agree....


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3) Miles is a great recruiter and I love him for that, but he cannot coach



FACT...


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4) Miles is an idiot and LSU is going nowhere with him


Oh they will go somewhere... Like fricking Nashville instaed of a Sugar Bowl.


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5) Nick Saban is proving at Alabama just how much better he is than Miles


Without question....And LSU homers can't stand it..


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PJ...if you were AD and you could make a decision after the bowl game, would you fire Miles?



Nope... I will give him another year...But another 8-4 type season and underachieving with ALL this talent means goodbye...........


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After you answer yes, who would you replace him with?



After next year ya never know who it could be.



Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:06 pm to
Who, as of now, do you think could come in and elevate us? And remember, this "new HC" would have to be as good a recruiter as that cannot fall off.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:08 pm to
Jimbo Fisher and Jon Gruden. LSU recruits itself.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:10 pm to
Jack Del Rio rumors that have flown since Christmas night of 2004 make me laugh the most.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:16 pm to
Luke Del Rio transfers to LSU. Championship.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10888 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Who, as of now, do you think could come in and elevate us? And remember, this "new HC" would have to be as good a recruiter as that cannot fall off.
This answer might not be popular, but I personally like James Franklin. Penn State is not that great, but he took over a program in horrible shape. He also has a lot of SEC experience at Vanderbilt where he was putting together Top-25 recruiting classes. He was even beating out instate rival Tennessee with less resources. Now THAT is a recruiter. Lastly, he is still very young.

With that said, I am patient enough to give Les one more season to prove what he can do with this incredible class. I admittingly lack faith in him though. I use to be a sunshine pumper, but that changed 2 seasons ago. I just can't lie to myself about Miles anymore. I feel like he is an average coach at an elite program.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:18 pm to
I still don't understand the people that would want jack Del rio as the head coach at lsu. What could you actually be looking at to lead you believe he would run a successful college program.
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
7739 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:19 pm to
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What exactly is the criteria that you're using? If this is the reasoning behind including Auburn, it should also serve to eliminate Ohio State.


i put auburn jn my top 5 because of their hardware alone. alabama is the only team with more. I put ohio st in my top 5 based on their record. i'm sure you know that had they not been on probation in 2012 they play notre dame in the championship instead of alabama most likely and likely win that game. they also have 2 top 5 finishes from 2010-2013 and could feasibly have another one this year.

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Easy schedule, roster heavily saturated with upperclassmen, and young rosters across the SECW. We will lose no more than 2 games, IMO.
maybe so, but no better than 2 losses which means another year of not going to atlanta.

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Give me consistent success over Boom-or-Bust. Personal preference.
obviously LSU has a better record than auburn, but i would take auburn's last 5 years over LSU's and i don't understand how anyone wouldn't. i would rather win the big dance once than make make the elite eight 3 years in a row. i would rather win the college world series over just making the world series 3 years in a row.

you keep criticizing my top 5. how about you tell me how you squeeze LSU into the top 5 since you're obviously thinking they are for some reason.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202665 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:22 pm to
I would love to have Harbaugh but LSU waited too long....


Jim Mora Jr.
Gary Patterson
Mullen
Freeze
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10888 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:24 pm to
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I would love to have Harbaugh but LSU waited too long.... Jim Mora Jr. Gary Patterson Mullen Freeze
I don't think Harbaugh ever wants to leave California, except maybe Michigan.

Throw James Franklin in there.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202665 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:27 pm to
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I don't think Harbaugh ever wants to leave California.


He will be the Michigan coach by tomorrow afternoon...............
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10888 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:33 pm to
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He will be the Michigan coach by tomorrow afternoon...............
Okay, if true, I stand corrected. I haven't been keeping up. IT certainly seems like the natural fit though. If he ever left California, Michigan would be the obvious place for him to land. He has personal ties there, obviously.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:36 pm to
Mullen and freeze
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202665 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:42 pm to
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Mullen


Well he has recruited well enough and built a team good enough to come TO Tiger Stadium and KICK MILES arse...........


Freeze has been on a recruiting warpath and he is not letting up... I would take them both over Miles at this point......
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:44 pm to
Mullen beats lsu once and hes now some dukke v hero.



Please continue.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10155 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:47 pm to
IIRC, Bertman, Jacobs, & Weems were in Orlando planning to interview Houston Nutt and Del Rio. While driving from Jacksonville to Orlando, Del Rio turned around after receiving a phone call from someone making it clear that his current contract prohibited such interviews.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202665 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:48 pm to
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Mullen beats lsu once and hes now some dukke v hero.



He is building MSU... Miles is NOT building LSU... Face it buttfrick. You are wrong here,,,, But it doesn't matter.. MSU AND Ole Miss will beat LSU again next year.. I can't wait for your excuses.........
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:49 pm to
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MSU AND Ole Miss will beat LSU again next year..




You are a riot.
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