- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: New York Sports talk going on about Jeremy Hill and Beckham
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:05 am to Pianoman
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:05 am to Pianoman
I can't believe how many posters willingly stick their heads in the sand about the talent/results conundrum. We lost two games in 2006 with the best talent in the country, but at least that year we looked the part. We finished the year unbelievably hot, and it realistically looked like a fluke that we lost two games. The same can't be said for 2013, or 2012. Those teams limped to the finish. The 2012 team was ultra-talented on defense, yet Miles would rather play turtle on offense and tried to win every game 9-6. The 2013 offense looked explosive until we played Florida at home. Inexplicably Miles reverted back to playing turtle on offense and the numbers back it up. We took the air out of the ball starting with the Florida game. Alabama gave up about 42 points to A&M last year, 17 to LSU. Our offense didn't do their part in Tuscaloosa last year.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:07 am
2
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:07 am to LSU1SLU
quote:
Wait. Do you use simple logic? Oh shite
We don't take kindly to your types round here.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:08 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:
And still a 5-3 record in SEC play
It's okay since it was the defense that squandered the best offense in LSU history
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:46 am to dboyback
quote:
Somebody told me LSU broke almost every LSU offensive record last year and had the best 3rd down offense in the Country. I guess the best offense in LSU history just don't explain it enough. Oh well rantards gonna rant
The best offense in school history was barely a top 20 total offense for that year as far as NCAA rankings go.
LSU had star power on that offense. That group of guys shouldn't have broke records, but destroyed them. They had the talent, abilities, and opportunity. What they lacked was a great game plan week in and week out. No offensive adaptation.
The game plan is still the same. Those guys were just better.
Just sayin..
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:47 am to LSUsuperfresh
Yet everyone wants to line up to blow chief because of this year.
Seems like we are never in sinc with our offense and defense.
Seems like we are never in sinc with our offense and defense.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:52 am to Choupique19
quote:the offense was extremely conservative that game, but I also think mett got hurt during that game. He wasn't the same player the rest of the season after that one.
The 2013 offense looked explosive until we played Florida at home
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:54 am to BeeFense5
quote:
The offense plays defense?
offense wasn't as great as some think it was last year. Compare the rankings of how each unit finished nationally and tell me if you think we overachieved defensively and underachieved offensively.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:00 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
9 times out of 10 he gets it right so I'll give him a pass. Our offense, however, comes through on that 1 out of 10. I guess it's kind of lucky in a sense though because we probably don't make a bowl with last year's defense and this year's offense 
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:00 pm to dbbuilder79
quote:
barely a top 20 total offense for that year as far as NCAA rankings go.
Do you realize how little total offense has to do with actually winning games? It's well down the list. The offense was sixth in the country in passing efficiency and first in third-down conversions, which are both much greater predictors of winning than total offense.
As for coaching, I'd argue that the rookies are having such great success because, in addition to their excellent individual talents, their season in Cam's system made the transition for them much easier. They've all alluded to that fact. Jeremy Hill said it was extremely easy because Hue Jackson and Cam coached with one another.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:11 pm to trooploop
quote:
Do you realize how little total offense has to do with actually winning games?
can't the same be said for defense? isn't it about how many points you allow?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:15 pm to Topwater Trout
Do any of you get that the point wasn't to bad mouth Les but merely to state we have good people.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:16 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
can't the same be said for defense? isn't it about how many points you allow?
Yes, total offense and total defense is one of the most overvalued statistics in football.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:32 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Yeah, that is a play that is sure hard to swallow. Beckham has such good ball skills and catches darn near everything in sight and he muffs that damn punt. Just a heart-breaking play. Not that LSU would have won the game if he catches that punt, but it was a huge turnover. And to top it off, because we lost that game, all the Miles haters want to put the loss squarely on his shoulders.
it would have helped a lot had OBJ not dropped a punt on our 20 yard line at UGA
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:40 pm to Choupique19
The SEC had 49 players drafted. It is not like we had this team and didn't win the SunBelt.
Bama had 8, Arky 4, Auburn 4, Florida 4, Georgia 2, Aggies 3, State of MS 2.
Bama had 8, Arky 4, Auburn 4, Florida 4, Georgia 2, Aggies 3, State of MS 2.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:31 pm to PsychTiger
What does that even mean. I was giving a compliment
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:35 pm to PacWilly
quote:
I agree. I was at the Ole Miss game frustrated as anybody that Mett kept throwing into double coverage especially when the underneath stuff and running game was wide open. IMO, that game was on him. Otherwise, the defense was leaky. Couldn't get a stop when needed time and time again.
Didn't Hill get benched due to an early fumble also. Gave that game away.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:36 pm to lsu2006
Plus we play in the SEC WEST!! If we would get to play FSU schedule every year we would never lose
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:37 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
NY getting that LSU talk ready for Syracuse
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:40 pm to LSU1SLU
quote:
What does that even mean. I was giving a compliment
It was a joke and also a reference to a South Park episode.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:21 pm to trooploop
quote:
Do you realize how little total offense has to do with actually winning games
Yes... yes I do. But it is a handy tool when you're trying to guage the success of your program's offense when compared to others.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News