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re: Recap: LSU 71, College of Charleston 47
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:42 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:42 am to ProjectP2294
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I was very encouraged by his play. He's obviously not all the way there yet, but his passing was an especially welcome site
When Odo catches it in the paint, he basically passes it right back out to whoever passed it to him... When Elbert catches it, he has his head up and looks for a cutting big... He is still gonna pass it, but he looks for a positive pass rather than a neutral pass.
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:49 am to SouthOfSouth
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When Odo catches it in the paint, he basically passes it right back out to whoever passed it to him... When Elbert catches it, he has his head up and looks for a cutting big... He is still gonna pass it, but he looks for a positive pass rather than a neutral pass.
we need a 5 to develop down low. We really don't have one in this team. Mickey is a 4 and Martin is a 3/4. If epps develops into a good player down low we can have a solid front court. I think having a decent to good 5 will be key in a post season run this year.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:46 am to Alt26
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This team still makes a ton of silly mental errors for which Jones apparently holds no one accountable for
What the hell should he do? Bench him in favor of a walk-on to send a message? They can correct mental mistakes in practice, and not overreact in the middle of the game.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:57 am to oauron
The man to man defense was concerning. Martin on def is atrocious. Mickey bails alot of those problems out though.
Looks like they emphasized rebounding going into that game. Noticed quite a few guys going to the glass to get boards the first 10 mins of the game.
These next two games should be good opportunities to rest guys like TQ. Odo is a spaz. Id like epps to contribute a little more with elbert.
Looks like they emphasized rebounding going into that game. Noticed quite a few guys going to the glass to get boards the first 10 mins of the game.
These next two games should be good opportunities to rest guys like TQ. Odo is a spaz. Id like epps to contribute a little more with elbert.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:01 pm to josh336
Why are Odo's minutes so limited?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:39 pm to SouthOfSouth
Always enjoy these previews and recaps. Very well done. 
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:43 pm to The King
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Why are Odo's minutes so limited?
IMO, because they would rather give those minutes to someone that will develop going forward. Odo is what he is as far as LSU is concerned.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:56 pm to SouthOfSouth
Mickey-to-Martin Hi/Lo set piece that resulted in an alley was a thing of beauty. Nice draw up to take advantage of CoC doubling at the foul line while having the last defender front Martin.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:09 pm to therick711
Elbert even got into the high low action. It's one of my favorite things we do. It leaves no help defense because you take the second big away from the basket to guard the ball.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:58 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I was really pleased with Elbert who hadn't played in a while. He looked like a better option than Odo as a big man in the post.
Strong upper body. Will be a force when the lower catches up with the upper, IMO. Blocked a shot flat-footed last night. lol
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:10 pm to SouthOfSouth
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It's one of my favorite things we do. It leaves no help defense because you take the second big away from the basket to guard the ball.
We seem to be using that much more frequently. Because Martin and Mickey are interchangeable in the hi/lo, it is hard for a defense to deny the play before it is set in motion because you never know which will initiate. A very good piece of coaching if you ask me. Also, I'm pretty sure that they used the hi/lo action and instead backdoored Hornsby/TQ for layups several times on the overreaction. Really, really good looking stuff. Your thoughts, SoS?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:20 pm to SouthOfSouth
What would you do if you got in a wreck with a player on the way to a game and his car was inoperable but yours was okay?
I'd be like eyy bro I'll give you a lift.
I'd be like eyy bro I'll give you a lift.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:50 pm to Alt26
quote:How do you know that? You think they don't watch film and he points out what they do wrong? You think he coaches them to be sloppy? That is on the players. They are the ones out there being careless and sloppy. It's not like Jones can afford to pull someone every time they make a mistake with our bench.
This team still makes a ton of silly mental errors for which Jones apparently holds no one accountable for
Posted on 12/23/14 at 6:17 pm to Alt26
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I wouldn't be surprised if Quarterman sits out next Monday.
Definitely looks hampered out there
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:19 pm to SouthOfSouth
SOS, I don't know if I can take as positive an opinion of the game as you.
I don't know that I agree our defense was all that great as you do, Charleston just flat out sucked on offense from what I saw.
After a great game against UAB I thought Patterson really struggled. Q looked more like the Q of last year, 3-9 a couple of missed layups and 6 turnovers.
I'll chalk this one up as a tough game to get motivated for and won't hold us as accountable as I might normally, but I did not come out of this one as content as you.
But neither do I see it as a step backward. Just a game where we played a bad team that played poorly and we did what we had to do.
I don't know that I agree our defense was all that great as you do, Charleston just flat out sucked on offense from what I saw.
After a great game against UAB I thought Patterson really struggled. Q looked more like the Q of last year, 3-9 a couple of missed layups and 6 turnovers.
I'll chalk this one up as a tough game to get motivated for and won't hold us as accountable as I might normally, but I did not come out of this one as content as you.
But neither do I see it as a step backward. Just a game where we played a bad team that played poorly and we did what we had to do.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:01 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I was really pleased with Elbert who hadn't played in a while. He looked like a better option than Odo as a big man in the post.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:42 am to Tiger Ugly
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I don't know that I agree our defense was all that great as you do, Charleston just flat out sucked on offense from what I saw
They aren't a good offensive team, but they aren't a bad team. We absolutely destroyed them. They played UCONN and TAMU A LOT closer and more competitive.
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After a great game against UAB I thought Patterson really struggled. Q looked more like the Q of last year, 3-9 a couple of missed layups and 6 turnovers.
Disagree wholeheartedly with both statements. He shot less and scored less, but had 4 assists and 3 steals. 2 of his turnovers were direct causes of TQ throwing the ball into a trap. Also, if people don't realize by now that Josh Gray is a huge benefit to TQ then I don't know what to say. Gray allows TQ to roam and play free, TQ is never going to thrive when he has the ball every possession. He's an effort and hustle guy and always plays full speed. So sometimes he gets caught doing ridiculous things when he takes the ball up every play.
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I'll chalk this one up as a tough game to get motivated for and won't hold us as accountable as I might normally, but I did not come out of this one as content as you.
They had a 26 point lead when the starters started to exit the game around the 8 minute mark. If we played balls to the wall the entire game we win by 35-40, which is impressive. They aren't Kentucky, but they aren't a bad team. They are a well coached basketball team. They only shot 28%, so we are doing something right
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:48 am to LSUButt
quote:Maybe, but I saw it as them as a mediocre team playing poorly, bricked a lot of open shots and I mean missed them badly.
They aren't a good offensive team, but they aren't a bad team.
quote:We beat them decisively yes, but I'd say it could have and should have been worse.
We absolutely destroyed them. They played UCONN and TAMU A LOT closer and more competitive.
quote:Q shares some responsibility but Patterson froze up in those traps consistently. He'll learn from the experience. He also badly missed on a couple of open 3's after hitting his first.
He shot less and scored less, but had 4 assists and 3 steals. 2 of his turnovers were direct causes of TQ throwing the ball into a trap.
And I'm a Q fan this year. His improvement has been nothing short of spectacular. But he did miss two layups and had 6 turnovers this game. He'll be fine when Gray returns I agree, but he'll have to play some point in the future when Gray returns, so he'll need to tighten up a bit when he does.
I'm not saying the sky is falling, just that I did not see it as the overwhelmingly positive performance SOS and perhaps you thought it was. It was a hard game to get motivated for and I think our performance reflected that for stretches. We won comfortably as we should have.
I'm confident we can play better moving forward.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:36 am to The King
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Why are Odo's minutes so limited?
One reason is that everytime he gets a rebound or a pass, he brings the ball to his waist instead of keeping it high. Opposing players love people like Odo. He has very little knowledge of the game and is raw.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:38 am to Tiger Ugly
Offensively, you have to be happy that we attacked the basket. We should always be attacking the basket like we did in this one. That had me extremely happy with the gameplan. Sure we missed some shots and didn't have a great offensive game at less than 1 point per possession, but I was extremely pleased that we didn't settle for threes all game.
Defensively I feel we have been much better against screen and rolls. CofC did miss some shots, but I wouldn't call them wide open. We had length in their faces. That's a team that was shooting 37% on the year from three. They aren't a poor shooting team.
Also we did work on the glass.
Once you are up mid 20s it's hard to stay motivated and I do think we got a little complacent, but we really had a good gameplan and it worked.
Defensively I feel we have been much better against screen and rolls. CofC did miss some shots, but I wouldn't call them wide open. We had length in their faces. That's a team that was shooting 37% on the year from three. They aren't a poor shooting team.
Also we did work on the glass.
Once you are up mid 20s it's hard to stay motivated and I do think we got a little complacent, but we really had a good gameplan and it worked.
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