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re: Is de Blasio really this clueless??

Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:48 am to
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:48 am to
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You thought you were saying something deep and meaningful to make those blaming the protestors and mayor "think"
I know better than that by now.
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but you were just pointing out someone who richly deserves blame, too.
By largely ignoring the peaceful protestors against police, and focusing on the violent ones, it gave idiots like yourself the impression they made up the bulk of the protestors. Yes, they do bear some guilt.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:54 am to
Just asking. Any of you actually been here?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:55 am to
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The fact that people like Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Debozo.....and the list goes on and on get enough votes to get elected is scarier than the people themselves. The ignorance is off the scale.


it goes both ways

same could be said about most republicans as well
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:56 am to
Neither party gives a damn about Joe average. Both are in the pocket of the rich because money buys elections.

For the record, NY City police have a thankless job dealing with crazies every day. I feel 10x safer seeing them in the train station as well as Guardsmen with rifles.
Posted by tigress4life
BR
Member since May 2007
956 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:57 am to
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He reminds me of the dimwit Obama!!!


De Blasio is a liberal which of course means he is a leftist ideologue like the prez.
As with all liberals truth is relative since they don't believe in absolutes so right and wrong-doing is also relative.
The head liberal himself the prez stated that he doesn't believe in absolutes, doesn't believe in an absolute right or wrong.
This is the liberal mindset and why BO claiming to be a christian is fairly ridiculous since you can't be a christian and then state there are no absolutes, (ok vegasdummbass his muslim father choose not one but two muslim prophets for his name you know), and this is why liberals in this country support muslims and try to destroy christians.
As you know Christianity has absolute representations but since Islam has two standards of behavior, one toward fellow muslims and another toward non muslims, the behaviour is relative; an act against a fellow muslim that would be criminal behaviour would not be against a non-muslim.

But getting back to de Blasio, he isn't a dimwit, or unaware; he is following liberalism's standard of truth. Which is this: truth is whatever you can convince someone to believe.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:15 am to
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Just asking. Any of you actually been here?
Yes I have. Multiple times over.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:15 am to
No, he's very clued in to his voters. Yes shoring up his support amongst the "stick it to the Man" types who elected him. Whether we like it or not, they are probably very appreciative of his recent actions.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:21 am to
wolfhound stop and say hi next time
Posted by tigress4life
BR
Member since May 2007
956 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:31 am to
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The fricking cynical victim industry let one of their lackeys get unruly and now they are scrambling to cover their asses.



Yeah, you nailed it. That is why CNN is pushing, "well the killer was insane" narrative.
Anyone with any sense knows if the killer had even passed by a Tea Party protest CNN would be busily linking his act as a product of the Tea Party ideology.

Plainly the truth is Liberals don't like cops, christians, or the military, and any time they get the whiff of a chance to condemn any of these groups they really detest, they will.

By the way, are we beginning to see an awareness of this and a coming break between this powerful national public union, the police union, and their traditional support of the Dem party since Libs are the Dem party.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:39 am to
He was asked about those who chanted re killing cops:

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“What are you guys going to do? Are you going to keep dividing us?” de Blasio said. “The few who want conflict, attempt that, and unfortunately, so many times you guys enable that,” he added.


The irony in your outrage is you would be the first to say this.

While I agree deBlasio is the worst politician since Palin, you and your cohorts have ignored his calls against violence on the police before these murders:

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DE BLASIO: You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It's illegal, it's wrong, it's immoral]

LINK

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. I made very clear that we cannot accept any violence against our police officers or against anyone
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 8:40 am
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7916 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:40 am to
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If we're blaming the protesters and mayor, why not the media too? Get everyone in on it.


Agreed. I think blaming the mayor and protestors is unreasonable and is used to push a narrative/agenda.

Now, de Blasio has antagonized the police on several fronts. His comments about his son, meeting with protestors, and the son of an aide referring to police as pigs.

LINK

I think it is possible to ratchet down the combat mindset and aggressiveness of police without publicly slinging mud.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:42 am to
I don't tell you who you like or hate, please refrain from telling me who I like and hate. It's quite presumptuous, elitist and downright ignorant.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:45 am to
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This is the liberal mindset and why BO claiming to be a christian is fairly ridiculous since you can't be a christian and then state there are no absolutes,
who the frick made you pope?
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he did choose not one but two muslim prophets for his name you know)
you think he chose his name?

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this is why liberals in this country support muslims and try to destroy christians.

This is why you're an idiot.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50236 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 8:55 am to
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de Blasio blaming the media coverag


Live by the sword, die by the sword. Don't feel sorry for you, bud.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7553 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:05 am to
Obama's not clueless. Obama just does not give a shite.


exactly!
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:11 am to
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Just saw the video of de Blasio blaming the media coverage for the shooting of the NYPD Officers
That's not what he said.

This is what he said:

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We've talked about this so many times. I'm going to talk about it again. And now the question is, what are you guys going to do? What are you guys going to do? Are you going to keep dividing us? I'm not talking about every single one of you, but let's get real. Just in that question - 25,000 people marched down one of our streets a few days back, absolutely peaceful, no chants like that, peacefully calling for what they believed in as American citizens, and the NYPD protected them….What you manage to do is pull up the few who do not represent the majority, who are saying unacceptable things, who shouldn't be saying those things, and they - some who actually physically attack police officers, which I've said is absolutely unacceptable.
So, yes, there are some bad people who say inappropriate things. There are some people who say hateful things. They have no place in these protests. They are not what I'm talking about. I am talking about - excuse me - I am talking about the vast majority of New Yorkers, like the vast majority of Americans, who believe in peaceful democratic process….That's how you want to portray the world, but we know a different reality. There are some people who do that. It's wrong. It's wrong. They shouldn't do that. It's immoral, it's wrong, it's nasty, it's negative - they should not do that, but they, my friend, are not the majority. Stop portraying them as the majority.



He's obviously not blaming the shooting on the media. He's saying that the media is dividing the sides by focusing too much on the minority of people who are using extreme rhetoric, when the majority of people have been civil and peaceful. He has a good point.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 9:13 am
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:14 am to
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He's obviously not blaming the shooting on the media. He's saying that the media is dividing the sides by focusing too much on the minority of people who are using extreme rhetoric, when the majority of people have been civil and peaceful. He has a good point.


Maybe he shouldn't have used the media to divide the populous during his election? Can't have it both ways deblasio
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:16 am to
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Now, de Blasio has antagonized the police on several fronts. His comments about his son
Comments that were completely fair and cognizant of reality.

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meeting with protestors,
What is wrong with meeting with protesters?

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and the son of an aide referring to police as pigs.
That's somehow De Blasio's fault?

Do you have any control over what your coworkers' children say?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:17 am to
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Maybe he shouldn't have used the media to divide the populous during his election? Can't have it both ways deblasio
You can't possibly be suggesting that he should have tried to please everyone during a political campaign. Good grief that's ridiculous.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:18 am to
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Between this and the horse carriages, they really fricking hate this guy
I live here and I don't get this impression at all.
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