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Derek Carr- Best QB of 2014 class?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:22 pm
On a bad team, dude has been very good. Not a gunslinger, but a very effective QB and heady player. I think he was widely considered 4th or 5th best QB in this draft. Obviously, it's very early but he's been good. Harbaugh will have a good young QB to work with.
Bortles
Bridgewater
Manziel
Garrapolo
Carr
I can see him having a Carson Palmer type career. Thoughts?
Bortles
Bridgewater
Manziel
Garrapolo
Carr
I can see him having a Carson Palmer type career. Thoughts?
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:22 pm to ehidal1
Bridgewater
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:23 pm to ehidal1
Odell > Carr
At quarterback.
At quarterback.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:23 pm to ehidal1
Bridgewater for sure. He has like a 75% completion rate and passing rating of 100+ over his past four games.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:23 pm to ehidal1
I haven't seen much of Carr but I really like Bridgewater
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:24 pm to DelU249
Bridgewater would be the other. He does have the benefit of Norv Turner teaching him at QB.
Eta I guess I am bringing up Carr because it seems like he gets overlooked in Oakland. Everyone knows about Teddy
Eta I guess I am bringing up Carr because it seems like he gets overlooked in Oakland. Everyone knows about Teddy
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:24 pm to ehidal1
I think he's been the best. Still has a ways to go but really like what I've seen. Still hoping for that dynamic wide receiver in the next draft.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:26 pm to ehidal1
You've got to be kidding. Bridgewater hands down. MN has no running game after losing AP. Receivers are terrible, and our best TE, Rudolph, has been hurt. Despite all this, Teddy has very played well. I'm from MN and have watched all out games. Teddy is the real deal.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:29 pm to RedMustang
I am not denying Teddy, but I think you are off if you think Teddy's surrounding cast is worse. It's obviously better. Maybe not a ton, but better. Plus Teddy plays in a shitty defensive division.
But I really like Teddy and he is the other argument (and only one really) in this discussion.
But I really like Teddy and he is the other argument (and only one really) in this discussion.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:30 pm to RedMustang
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You've got to be kidding. Bridgewater hands down. MN has no running game after losing AP. Receivers are terrible, and our best TE, Rudolph, has been hurt. Despite all this, Teddy has very played well. I'm from MN and have watched all out games. Teddy is the real deal.
Lol
Are you familiar with the Raider's personnel? Their offense is made up of nobodies, too. And their defense is deplorable and cannot keep them in any games.
Not to discredit Teddy bc he has made some fine throws. But Carr has flashed better long term success for me
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:40 pm to ehidal1
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trey wingo ?@wingoz 7 minutes ago
Derek Carr has 20 TD passes. Only rookies with more since merger? Peyton Manning, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Jim Kelly and Cam Newton
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OAKLAND RAIDERS ?@RAIDERS 16 minutes ago
QB @derekcarrqb is the 8th rookie since 1950 with 20 TD passes.
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Scott Bair ?@BairCSN 2h2 hours ago
Derek Carr has become the 13th rookie in NFL history to exceed 3,000 passing yards.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:48 pm to UltimateHog
Nice
Marcel Reece, McFadden, and Mychal Rivera were 3 of his 5 leading pass catchers. Top 2 WRs were james jones and andre Holmes lol
Marcel Reece, McFadden, and Mychal Rivera were 3 of his 5 leading pass catchers. Top 2 WRs were james jones and andre Holmes lol
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:49 pm to ehidal1
I think Carr has been the best overall. But Bridgewater has been playing better these last few weeks though.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:51 pm to GynoSandberg
Bare indeed, Reece is a great player, Rivera is a solid young TE.
Long ways to go but I'm glad we've got Mack and Carr to build around.
Mack another sack today. Just a monster.
Long ways to go but I'm glad we've got Mack and Carr to build around.
Mack another sack today. Just a monster.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:53 pm to ehidal1
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Garrapolo
Gonna be a stud.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:54 pm to UltimateHog
Needs a few legit WRs. Seems like Murray could be the answer at RB
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:55 pm to UltimateHog
I think it has to be Bridgewater.
Carr has played 3 additional games; YPA, Completion %, QBR-- all are decisive Bridgewater advantages.
For me, the biggest thing is YPA; that's usually the hidden golden metric for QB development, in terms of how they are seeing the field-- and the difference is about a yard and a half per attempt.
Carr has played 3 additional games; YPA, Completion %, QBR-- all are decisive Bridgewater advantages.
For me, the biggest thing is YPA; that's usually the hidden golden metric for QB development, in terms of how they are seeing the field-- and the difference is about a yard and a half per attempt.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:57 pm to GynoSandberg
Part of me wants Cooper, which may happen now that we're out of the top 4 picks with today's win.
But the front office wants that USC DT/DE to pair on Macks side and shut down that side of the field.
I'm happy with both. I believe there are some decent FA to be WR 's to be this year so maybe just sign one.
As for Murray, they've found something with him and DMac rotating. I think he's too little for a true #1 but with a good complimentary back he's very solid. LOL@MJD though.
But the front office wants that USC DT/DE to pair on Macks side and shut down that side of the field.
I'm happy with both. I believe there are some decent FA to be WR 's to be this year so maybe just sign one.
As for Murray, they've found something with him and DMac rotating. I think he's too little for a true #1 but with a good complimentary back he's very solid. LOL@MJD though.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 7:03 pm to BoardReader
How he's seeing the field or the inability of his WRs to gain separation? He's checked down a ton, hence the YPA. But if you watched him he put the ball on the WRs when they are open.
That team has played from behind all season long. He has amassed 200 more pass attempts than TB has by playing catchup every game. No run game, no defense, no WRs, and is still going to finish with an impressive TD:INT
Bridgewater deserves credit. He has managed games well in that russ Wilson mode. He's not making too many mistakes that cost his team. At the same time, that defense and some inferior opponents have helped him out a bit, too.
That team has played from behind all season long. He has amassed 200 more pass attempts than TB has by playing catchup every game. No run game, no defense, no WRs, and is still going to finish with an impressive TD:INT
Bridgewater deserves credit. He has managed games well in that russ Wilson mode. He's not making too many mistakes that cost his team. At the same time, that defense and some inferior opponents have helped him out a bit, too.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 7:09 pm to GynoSandberg
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