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re: Ayn Rand movie reviews

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Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:10 am to
big Ayn Rand fan here..i thought some of these were pretty funny except the ones about the cats. i don't get that. Did i miss her being obsessed with cats in one of her novels/
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:13 am to
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This is her father



it all makes sense now, a socialist baby trying to make evangelist daddy happy by beating up on the mean old atheist..





she's not even remotely clever enough to take on Rand, who doesn't even have to be breathing to defend herself from that moron.



Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:14 am to
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big Ayn Rand fan here..i thought some of these were pretty funny except the ones about the cats. i don't get that. Did i miss her being obsessed with cats in one of her novels/
yeah, the cats thing was odd.

Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:26 am to
Ayn Rand wrote a letter about cats to a cat magazine

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she's not even remotely clever enough to take on Rand, who doesn't even have to be breathing to defend herself from that moron.

That's saying a lot because Ayn Rand, while imaginative, was not very clever.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:57 am to
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Ayn Rand wrote a letter about cats to a cat magazine


Cool stuff.

Didn't know about her like of cats.

That said, the writer, I think, is missing what she means by "objectively".

When Rand talks about it in this vein, what I get is that she is saying, "clearly, the cats have value to HER". And, that jibes wholly with her philosophy that a person should act based upon what they value rather than what others value.

She doesn't mean that "objectively" cats have value to everyone because they have value to her.

Sometimes, it's obvious to me that people have very little grasp of what Rand REALLY thinks. I suspect if we spoke to her about cats and said we don't think they have value(I hate em), she'd say "fine, then you shouldn't own won and moreover, I shouldn't be able to make you help me own one".
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:01 am to
It makes sense that she liked cats. Cats are more self reliant than dogs. My dogs love the welfare state.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:05 am to
It's a humor piece. I wouldn't read too much into it. If you found it funny, fine. If you didn't, fine.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:06 am to
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It's a humor piece. I wouldn't read too much into it. If you found it funny, fine. If you didn't, fine.
I found it funny. All of em? Nah. But several were.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:06 am to
Some of these were funny.
Posted by AUin02
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:10 am to
I'm not a fan of Rand but thought it was a pretty funny piece.

Did not know about her obsession with cats though, but it makes sense that Rand would be a cat lady.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:11 am to


one letter. she wrote one tongue-in-cheek letter about 'objective interest in cats' on a survey from 'cat fancy' and the writer of this humor piece incorporates that into multiple responses.

that falls flat.

what about the letter she wrote to Mr. Neiman (of Neiman Marcus) telling him she didn't have time to decorate the egg he sent her so should she return it to him blank?

or the one asking her to endorse Lyndon Johnson where she replies 'i think you've missed something fundamental about what i believe'
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:15 am to
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one letter. she wrote one tongue-in-cheek letter about 'objective interest in cats' on a survey from 'cat fancy' and the writer of this humor piece incorporates that into multiple responses.
Yeah. I think people assume that because of the way she presents herself, she has no humor.

That cat letter screamed humor to me. Funny? Nah. But, I could see writing the same sort of thing. What? Do people think she didn't know why the Cat Fancy folks asked her the question?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:37 am to
she was making a play on 'is your interest in cats purely objective?'

c'mon.
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:48 am to
Cats are objectively filthy animals.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:53 am to
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Cats are objectively filthy animals.


our cat is pretty damn clean. we don't even have a litter box because she goes outside.

now my german shepard mix..he's a disaster. half the time he comes into the house smelling like arse because he's decided to make a meal out of some old shite of his he found in the backyard.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:56 am to
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Cats are objectively filthy animals.

I've encountered a lot of dogs that have smelled like shite, but no cats that have. Dogs generally have much worse breath, too, for some reason. I've never had to wash my hands after petting a cat because of how bad they smell, but a lot of dogs transfer their stink very effectively.

Cats are, generally speaking, very clean.

I love both cats and dogs, though.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:58 am
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:09 pm to
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That's saying a lot


the fact that dimwits like you don't understand Rand actually ingratiates her to those of us that are capable of understanding her..



Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:11 pm to
I found some of them funny. Also didn't get the bit about cats and she used it too many times.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:15 pm to
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the fact that dimwits like you don't understand Rand actually ingratiates her to those of us that are capable of understanding her..
Is this the part where we both try to brand each other as a complete idiot?

I'll pass.

After giving it a lot of thought, I don't think Ayn Rand's philosophy is sound. If your best response to her detractors is to convince yourself that we're all idiots, then your reasons for agreeing with her philosophy are probably not as good as you think they are.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:23 pm to
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, I don't think Ayn Rand's philosophy is sound.


of course not, because it demonstrates what frauds the despicable scum politicians are that you hold up so near and dear, those that hate individual determination and achievement, because it exposes them as frauds..

if being led around by the nose by Dems is your lot if life it's a sad life you live, but at least you can fall back on being too inept to understand how mislead you are, unless you prefer to be known as the lying scum that D politicians are known to be.
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