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re: what exactly is LSU's offense philosophy?

Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by JaxTiger10
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:31 pm to
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and that's the rub right there. Even with Mett, OBJ, Landry, and Hill, we played scared and conservative. 


What? We were not conservative last year. Do you people actually watch the games.

We had more pass attempts than 9 other sec teams and thats with lsu being ranked low in plays per game. JLandry and ObJr both ranked in the top7 in rec. So this notion that we played conservative last year is just false
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:33 pm to
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What about last year? We played smash mouth football last year as well. We were a run, run, pass team last year as well


We had a rb that was setting the sec single season yards per carry record.
Posted by JaxTiger10
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:34 pm to
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and are on par with Mississippi St, Ole Miss, and Arkansas as also rans in the SEC west. 


No. And we havent fallen behind Auburn.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:46 pm to
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We had more pass attempts than 9 other sec teams and thats with lsu being ranked low in plays per game.



we threw 38% of our offense plays with Mett, the coveted big armed PRO STYLE QB and Landry and OBJ at wr. We ran on 1st down, we ran on second down, (into stacked defenses), then we passed on 3rd. The runs were mostly all straight ahead dive plays or toss dive. If ever there was a year to open up the play book, that was the year. Didn't happen and we ended up 3rd in our division. We could have easily had an explosive offense but for some reason many of our fanbase are opposed to that.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:53 pm to
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We had a rb that was setting the sec single season yards per carry record.


yes and a QB that is currently starting in the nfl. A big immobile strong armed pro style QB throwing to a receiver who is the talk of the NFL right now plus another great receiver. We could have gone 'air coryell' which is considered 'pro style' and made some noise in the SEC west instead of being an also ran middle of the pack team. What was our final ranking in the AP pole and what was our bowl game?
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:54 pm to
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we threw 38% of our offense plays with Mett, the coveted big armed PRO STYLE QB and Landry and OBJ at w


Again, we had a rb that would ultimately have the 2nd greatest season of any lsu running back and setting the sec season y/carry record.if all we did was run then how come only 5 sec teams threw the ball more than mett?

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Didn't happen and we ended up 3rd in our divisio


METT was 3rd in the sec in passing yards. You repeatedly saying we were conservative does not make it true. Stats prove we threw the ball.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:56 pm to
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What was our final ranking in the AP pole and what was our bowl game? 


Defense let us down last year. Not offense. Facts say only 5 sec teams had more pass attempts. That means we threw the ball more than 8 other teams.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:03 pm to
You continue to thinks the FACTS im stating are wrong and your biased opinion is right.

Facts say we threw the ball more than 8 other sec teams and mett had over 3000 yards passing. he was 260 yards away from setting the lsu single season passing record. So stop saying we were conservative because it makes you look dumb.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:04 pm to
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METT was 3rd in the sec in passing yards


we finished 6th in the SEC in passing yards. Maybe other teams had injuries or used multiple QB's. Either way Mett played the whole season with exception of the bowl game and we finished 6th in passing yards, 5th in rushing and 7th overall.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:06 pm to
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we finished 6th in the SEC in passing yar


How many time do i have to tell you that totals our gonna be low because we dont run that many plays.
Mett finished 2nd in the sec in passing yards. AGAIN Mett was 260 yards away from throwing for more yards than any lsu qb, EVER. thats not conservative.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:07 pm to
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So stop saying we were conservative because it makes you look dumb.


Just from watching the games last year you seriously don't think we were conservative? NOt going to call you dumb or anything, don't know why you like to go there and you should be above all that. But you honestly don't think we were conservative on offense?
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:10 pm to
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Just from watching the games last year you seriously don't think we were conservative


Last year we werent. Thats a fact. This year we were to a fault. Mett almost threw for more yards than any lsu qb ever and we had a stud rb that was having the 2nd best rushing season in lsu history.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:11 pm to
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How many time do i have to tell you that totals our gonna be low because we dont run that many plays.

then why do you bring up how many yards he threw for if yards thrown don't matter. Are you saying that only individual stats matter and not team stats?

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Mett was 260 yards away from throwing for more yards than any lsu qb,


all teams are setting school offense records these days. The nature of the game has changed. You have to compare to what is happening these days not to history. We are playing in the present. The present is what matters.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:16 pm to
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then why do you bring up how many yards he threw for if yards thrown don't matter. Are you saying that only individual stats matter and not team stats? 


Im telling you you cant say were conservative last year when only 5 qbs attempted more passes and Mett almost broke the lsu passing record.
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all teams are setting school offense records these days. 


Ok but when you break that specific passing record then its not being conservative. We werent conservative last year and FACTS PROVE THAT. I think youre under the impression that this is my opinion. Its not. Its fact backed up by stats.Did we ride our stud rb, of course.were we conservative as hell this year? YES
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:44 pm to
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How many time do i have to tell you that totals our gonna be low because we dont run that many plays.


yet you want to use Metts totals to try to justify your argument. When your throwing to OBJ and Landry your going to have big plays and lots of yards even in a conservative offense. But regardless of all that, just go by the eyeball test
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:49 pm to
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what exactly is LSU's offense philosophy?


This >>>>
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:16 pm to
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air coryell' although


That is cams offense.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:21 pm to
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However, I don't necessarily believe that is Chavis' fault either. I think Miles tells him he has to play soft, non-aggressive football in those instances.


So Miles tells chavis what to do? Like starting welter and playing prevent? Well damn I guess miles is responsible for one of the best defenses in the history of the program. He's already responsible for one of the best offenses since he's calling those plays too.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:25 pm to
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yet you want to use Metts totals to try to justify your argument. 


It goes with my argument. Met was second in the sec in passing yards while not having a bunch of plays ran. Ive given you facts and you give eyeball test( biased opinions). I wonder which one is right? No matter how many times you say we run a 1960's offense or that we were conservative last year, make it true. Facts say exactly the opposite.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:27 pm to
when you almost always run on 1st and 2nd down and only throw when you have to, that is a conservative offense. We did that to a large extent last year as well. Just had the greatest collection of experienced offense talent in LSU history players to make the stats better
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