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re: what exactly is LSU's offense philosophy?

Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:12 pm to
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Cam has made a world's difference in recruiting..

Jury is still out on Harris and McMillan isn't exactly an ace in the hole. Too early to say one way or the other right now.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:16 pm to
Patterson
Franks
Dinkelmann
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:21 pm to
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RIGHT because we both know you dont care or like FACTS when it doesnt paint our qb/ offense in a negative light. If you thought Flynn was good in 2007, then jj was also good in 2009 BECAUSE FACTS SAY HE WAS. He had a higher passer rating.


Just so we're clear, are you going on record as saying JJ was a better QB than Flynn?

It so, you'd be the first person I've ever met say this. Interesting.

Is QB rating the sole measure of a successful QB in your opinion?

If JJ is the guy your are now pointing to in order to defend Miles' development or QBs then you are reaching. I bet you can't get a single pumper brother to get on board with that.

That's true delusion.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:22 pm to
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Posted by chilge1 Patterson Franks Dinkelmann

Let's see who ends up here and contributes. Hopefully you are right. Time will tell.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10088 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:31 am to
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JR did start.
Been 10yrs, but I recall Randall starting mostly in '04 and unable to unseat.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 7:36 am to
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JaxTiger10

Can you post a link to where you are getting the QB ratings by year?

Can you go ahead and post each guy in Miles' tenure to see how the compare to each other and how they progressed?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 8:29 am to
RATING

PROGRESSION

My other thread uses rankings and not raw numbers so TIFWIW
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 8:33 am to
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RATING

PROGRESSION

My other thread uses rankings and not raw numbers so TIFWIW


I was looking for wherever JaxTiger10 pulled the QB rating from. The site I saw Flynn had a higher rating than Jefferson but Jax says otherwise. Was trying to find where he found it.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 8:37 am to
The one i linked had JJ at 130 and Flynn at 115.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 8:57 am to
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The one i linked had JJ at 130 and Flynn at 115.


ESPN has a breakdown that is a different college QBR which is on a 100 point scale. Whatever, I guess it doesn't matter. Was just curious. I guess JJ was a stud and we just didn't give him credit. I'll still take Flynn everyday.

Flynn 66.5 in '07 to JJ 57.8 in '09.

This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:04 am to
I hate QBR because everyone uses a different calculator. If you check the thread i linked it'll show that LSU was a MUCH better passing team on 2007.

I think if anything, JJ could have been assigned a higher QBR because Miles was trying to limit him on low-percentage throws.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:55 am to
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I think if anything, JJ could have been assigned a higher QBR because Miles was trying to limit him on low-percentage throws.

That's what I was thinking.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:06 am to
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I guess JJ was a stud and we just didn't give him credit. I'll

neither JJ nor JL were the total boobs the fan base made them out to be.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:14 am to
Neither is AJ
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:35 am to
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Neither is AJ


I agree with you on that. Jennings, with some changes to the offense, is an average to pretty good SEC QB. Harris has the potential to be one of the best. We will find out a lot more in the bowl game.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:42 am to
I think next year will see much more read-option than was featured this year, but the improvement I'm expecting isn't due to offensive changes, but offensive development.

As AJ develops as a QB, Quinn, Diarse, Dupre, and Dural develop as WRs, and chemistry develops between all of them, the passing game will improve on its own.

I expect the bowl game to tell us squat, however. A Notre Dame defense down 9 starters? We'll run the ball 60 times.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:07 am to
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[ Just so we're clear, are you going on record as saying JJ was a better QB than Flynn? 



In 2009 jj had 17 td 7 ints 61.5 completion %. Thats the only year im talking about.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:47 pm to
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neither JJ nor JL were the total boobs the fan base made them out to be.


No one can be worse to LSU players than LSU fans who decide a certain player isn't good enough.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6203 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:29 pm to
Why do you think that nothing changes even though the OC and DC have changed several times each?

Are we really to believe that Crowton, Studrawa AND Cameron are the only 3 OCs in college or pro football to run the that idiotic toss dive? Or is the 1 head man the the HC in the universe of college and pro football to run the toss dive?

Yeah, you right, it's clearly not Miles.
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