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Running DTV video feed from living room to porch: Help pls

Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:51 am
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:51 am
I just got a new TV, and I'm wanting to mount my old one outside on the porch for evening grilling, lounging sessions, etc. I'm not going to put an additional DTV box outside and just want to run whatever is on in the living room out to the porch. What kind of splitter/cable/device do I need to do this? I'm planning on running the cable through the crawlspace above the ceiling and out of the ceiling onto the porch fwiw... Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:12 am to
easiest way is to run a separate HDMI cable from your porch tv to your existing DTV box and simply reach behind the box and swap it when you want to change which tv you're viewing your DVR on. just be sure to label both HDMI cables so you know which one is the outdoor tv.

yeah you can get a fancy eletronic HDMI switch, blah blah blah but it takes all of 1.3 seconds to simply pull the first one out and plug the second one in so if you're not using the TV on the porch all that much, i'd opt for the 1.3 second solution

CAVEATS:

- I believe DISH & DIRECT have phone apps you can use to control your DTV box. I don't think comcast/cox does. So if you don't have a RF remote already, you will have trouble changing channels, pausing, etc. because you'll have to go inside to your box to do it which is no bueno so KEEP THIS IN MIND. i have dish so i'm 100% covered with the android app. works like a charm.

- what are you watching on it?? i also have a chromecast plugged into my back deck tv and i've used that 99% of the time and hardly ever use the HDMI cable. With WatchESPN, Netflix, PLEX, etc built into chromecast the only time i've used DISH in the last year was for an LSU game that wasnt on ESPN.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by Layabout
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Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:15 am to
An HDMI switch would work with an HDMI extension cable. You can get one that will automatically switch to the patio TV when you power it on.

LINK
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:20 am to
How long is the run?
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

How long is the run?


10-15 feet or so... I do have an HDMI switch box thingy like mentioned above. The primary use of the outdoor TV will be for sports (I'd like to keep the feed going in both the living room and the outdoor TV). I'd like to not have to sacrifice the indoor feed for the other. That wouldn't work with the HDMI switch box though would it?

ETA:I want to keep both feeds going at the same time because what usually happens is we'll have several guests over, and some will be inside while others are outside. I'm usually in and out with grilling stuff, and I don't want to miss anything and don't want to force guests inside or out.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by Layabout
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

:I want to keep both feeds going at the same time because what usually happens is we'll have several guests over, and some will be inside while others are outside. I'm usually in and out with grilling stuff, and I don't want to miss anything and don't want to force guests inside or out.


Then what you want is an HDMI splitter instead of a switch.

LINK
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:41 am to
use chromecast on the outdoor one and watchespn so you can have a different game on.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:43 am to
If you can easily access your DTV satellite, there may be an open port on the splitter they use that you can just plug in your cable and run it directly to the outside box.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

the outside box.


Not gonna have one outside.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Then what you want is an HDMI splitter


Thanks.
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
9315 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:50 am to
Your dtv box should have multiple outputs that will run simultaneously. For my outdoor TV, I ran component cables since I have HDMI going to my main TV/ receiver. I personally liked doing this versus fooling with splitters. Etc.

For example if you're having a party or going back and forth during a game, you can have both on

For long hdmi or component cable runs, Ive always gone with monoprice and have never been disappointed

LINK
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by beHop
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:57 am to
Well, now I'm perplexed. Which will offer better picture? HDMI right?
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
9315 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Well, now I'm perplexed. Which will offer better picture? HDMI right?


The below link is a good read.
Component pq will do up to 1080p.
In my outdoor setup, the connections on my component cables locks in place making a more robust connection while HDMI connections easily slide out. Just something to consider

LINK
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
9315 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:11 am to
If you do go with monoprice component cables, go with their premium series. The connections are extremely solid

LINK
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8034 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:15 am to
wireless hdmi transmitter and receiver


LINK
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:16 am to


y'all are turning an $8 project into hundreds.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:17 am to
quote:

wireless hdmi transmitter and receiver


quote:

$179





Looks awesome, but no way I'm spending that.



Thanks to all that have responded. I have a lot better idea of what needs to be done.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:52 am to
Great thread. I'm looking to do this over the Christmas Break.

Anyone have any experience with Aurum Cables?

I'm going further than BeHop (probably 50'). Do I risk quality issues at this distance? Any suggestions for that length?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:00 pm to
scratch that..i'd go with this:

quote:

RedMere technology is a breakthrough in the functionality and efficiency of HDMI cables. High Speed HDMI Cables with RedMere can reliably distribute High Speed signals to much greater distances, up to 65 feet (20 meters) at the full 10.2 Gbps data throughput, as opposed to the 25 foot distance for HDMI cables without RedMere technology. This can be done with thinner and lighter cables, which are easier to handle and route through your home theater system and which put less stress on your equipment's HDMI ports.


pricey, at $58 for a 50ft cable but i've run a long redmere to use as my outdoor tv HDMI cable and its SWEET. love how thin the cable is.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:09 pm to
Ah! So regular HDMI cord tech is roughly the same up to 25'? I did not know that. Of course I think I need about 30'.

$60 is a little more than I was hoping to spend, but I'll look into it.

Thanks!
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