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re: Newtown Families Sue Gun Maker for Sandy Hook Massacre
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:07 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:07 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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How can there not be drug testing before car purchases?
Over 30 thousand dead.
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How can there not be drug testing before knife purchases?
2011-2012 over 3 thousand killed.
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How can there not be drug testing before voting?
B.H. Obama re-elected 2012.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:07 pm to lsuroadie
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this suit will not go anywhere
Wouldn't be too sure of that. If I was Bushmaster (or whoever owns them), I'd be sweating balls.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:18 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
They are protected by the Lawful Commerce of Arms Act, as posted already by wickowick on pg 1. So Bushmaster probably isn't to worried about this.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:21 pm to civiltiger07
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They are protected by the Lawful Commerce of Arms Act, as posted already by wickowick on pg 1. So Bushmaster probably isn't to worried about this
this. and even if they won somewhere locally, eventually it would get appealed to an adult with some common sense.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:28 pm to lsuroadie
Lanza murdered and took the weapon from the rightful owner, his mother, lol what a stupid lawsuit.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:29 pm to lsuroadie
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For far too long the gun industry has been given leglislative safe harbor from this standatd business practice.
That statement seems to abandon any pretext of good faith. It shows that they are fully aware of the limited immunity granted to gun makers and diatributors and are strictly engaging in harrassment.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:34 pm to shinerfan
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For far too long the gun industry has been given leglislative safe harbor from this standatd business practice.
Gun manufacturers are only allowed to sell their new guns to citizens that are approved by the ATF
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:47 pm to lsuroadie
Are you fricking kidding me?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:52 pm to lsuroadie
They didn't file to win. They filed to raise awareness of the immunity granted to the gun manufacturers.
I'd imagine the attorneys took it on a contingency fee basis and this is just free advertising for them to get their name out.
Maybe it will force the media to ask some politicians some thorny questions and get their positions on the record.
But that's about all they can hope for.
I'd imagine the attorneys took it on a contingency fee basis and this is just free advertising for them to get their name out.
Maybe it will force the media to ask some politicians some thorny questions and get their positions on the record.
But that's about all they can hope for.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:00 pm to FooManChoo
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Normally I would attribute a lawsuit like this to greed, but given who the plaintiffs are, it stinks of simple irrationality. They are looking for someone else to blame, since they weren't able to confront the person who actually perpetrated the heinous act
Nah it is greed this time as well, not necessarily on the parents part but I am quite sure the legal work is not being done pro bono.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:05 pm to boosiebadazz
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force the media to ask some politicians some thorny questions
Like why was this crazy person roaming the streets?
Could the mom have done better keeping the guns locked or knowing of her son not have any at all?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:07 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
How come liberals holler and stamp their feet when people say that welfare recipients should have to take drug tests?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:08 pm to goatmilker
That. Prolly ask a few to articulate why the manufacturers have immunity.
The politicians will get their talking points from the NRA lobbysits and it'll be a little callous, but they'll power through it.
"While this is an unspeakable and monumental tragedy, to impose liability on the manufacturer of a product for what an evil person does with the product would stifle innovation and commerce in this country." "Rabble, rabble, rabble, something about jobs and the Second Amendment", and that's about it.
The lawsuit will be quietly dismissed within 6 months.
The politicians will get their talking points from the NRA lobbysits and it'll be a little callous, but they'll power through it.
"While this is an unspeakable and monumental tragedy, to impose liability on the manufacturer of a product for what an evil person does with the product would stifle innovation and commerce in this country." "Rabble, rabble, rabble, something about jobs and the Second Amendment", and that's about it.
The lawsuit will be quietly dismissed within 6 months.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:10 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Need a loner waiting period and screening for criminal background, drugs etc.
I think the crime trends and statistics from 1980 to 2008 would probably challenge your attitudes towards homicide, the victim/offender relationships...probably gender, age and race as well. Also, if you're worried about lives, then why don't you start figuring out a way to reduce the number of vehicular fatalities involving alcohol...because those numbers regularly dwarf the number of homicides committed with a gun...in 2008, less than 8,000 homicides were committed using a gun...more than double were killed in a vehicular accident involving alcohol
adam lanza's mother bought the guns...it's already the law in many states to have your gun locked up with children in the house...there is no screening process, waiting period, or anything that would've prevented adam lanza from killing a lot of people. He obtained them illegally, he possessed them illegally, he carried them illegally, he used them illegally. Criminals don't care about the law. The only thing that could have prevented this was his mother...she's dead, so it sucks but we're all left to move on. there is no justice to administer. Believe it or not, mass shootings are almost statistically irrelevant in the "gun crime" stats people love to discuss.
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drugs etc
misunderstanding, still...if you think this is plausible then I feel sorry for you, nor is there a precedent for this with any other purchases that can be used to kill people.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:14 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Need a loner waiting period and screening for criminal background, drugs etc.
You going to put a longer waiting period on the threats we face, too?
What about buying knives? Or cars? Or fertilizer? Or crowbars?
In a free society, we should enjoy the presumption of competence to engage in a number of activities, absent evidence to the contrary. That should be even more clear when it comes to a constitutionally protected right.
Lanza didn't go through any of the crap you're suggesting the rest of us endure - he killed his mother for her guns (a crime) and then brought them to a school (another crime) before ever shooting anyone.
He just bypassed the whole, go to the gun store, pick out a gun, fill out a bunch of paperwork, get approved by the FBI, etc.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:15 pm to DelU249
It's been tried before, with no success
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:16 pm to Ace Midnight
freedom comes with risk and responsibility...always has
the other side comes with risk as well...which do liberals choose? the one with less individual freedom...of course.
the other side comes with risk as well...which do liberals choose? the one with less individual freedom...of course.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:18 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Wouldn't be too sure of that
They might get Nicholas Easter on the jury.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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In a free society, we should enjoy the presumption of competence to engage in a number of activities, absent evidence to the contrary
like drugs...and those should be legal as well, and would infinitely reduce the "gun crimes" stats that liberals often concern themselves with
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:23 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:There are restrictions on 3 of the 4 you mentioned.
What about buying knives? Or cars? Or fertilizer? Or crowbars?
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