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re: Odell Beckham, Jr. is the best receiver in the NFL

Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:47 pm to
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If the question is plain and simple, "is he the best WR in the NFL?", the answer is no



His stats prorated over a 16 game schedule would be 139/1971/14. If he put that line up or something close to it over the course of a full season, would you say he is the best WR in the NFL?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:57 pm to
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The season Beckham is putting together is unprecedented. I don't think people realize what he's doing here



What he is doing is great... But he is NOT the best WR in the NFL..............
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:58 pm to
Michael Clayton as a rookie:

80 receptions, 1193 yards, 7 touchdowns

Many were thinking he was going to have an incredible career.

Outside of that season he never broke 500 yards again.




Sustained success determines how great a receiver is. I do think Odell will have a great career though.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:02 pm to
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His stats prorated over a 16 game schedule would be 139/1971/14


No they don't.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:04 pm to
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His stats prorated over a 16 game schedule would be 139/1971/14.

Nope.

Beckham has 10 games at 71/972/9.

16 games would be 113.6/1555.2/14.4.
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:42 pm to
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LSU fans goin full retard


Not even close to full retard for our fan base.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:58 pm to
I took those from another thread

Even still, he would've tied the league league in receptions and TDs last season with those numbers and been 2nd in yards
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Last seven games:

Beckham: 61/866/6 on 82 targets

Brown: 65/779/6 on 85 targets

Jones last seven played (not counting week 15 injury): 49/808/3 on 78 targets

Fairly similar number to Antonio Brown. Again, this is stupid good for a rookie and basically unprecedented for a rookie, but it is hard to call him the best receiver right now when other players are doing the same thing.

So basically, of the three best receivers in the league right now (to me), he's basically neck and neck with Brown. And outperforming Jones.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:02 pm to
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Why? We are talking about right now. And right now he is arguably the best WR in the NFL



Why? Because top player rankings don't go off of just one year. It is like putting Josh Gordon in the top 5 after last season. He was undoubtedly good, but you can't put him there after one season.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:35 pm to
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So basically, of the three best receivers in the league right now (to me)

Why are those three better than Calvin, AJ, Demaryius, and Dez?
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:47 pm to
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It is like putting Josh Gordon in the top 5 after last season. He was undoubtedly good, but you can't put him there after one season.

Well, a ton of people did.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:50 pm to
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Well, a ton of people did.



And a ton of people jumped the gun.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:52 pm to
His off the field issues derailed that not his on field
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:54 pm to
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What is so funny about that?

Mike Evans 935 yards 10 TD's

Beckham 829 yards 6 TD's


I bet you thought you zinged him with your incorrect stats
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:57 pm to
Demaryius is in one of the most talented offense in the NFL, with a top four quarterback. How good is Emmanuel Sanders, really? Certainly better in that offense than he would be in most others.

Dez is great. Calvin is great. Odell has outperformed AJ Green this season, in similar situations.

All of these dudes are great. You could make a case for any one over the other. However, I think if the main argument for putting those guys over Odell is because they've been in the league longer, I'm not buying that argument. That's just me.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:58 pm to
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And a ton of people jumped the gun.

Josh Gordon was the best receiver in the NFL last season.

Why couldn't people say he was a top 5 receiver? Because he had off-the-field issues?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:09 pm to
No one is denying that Odell is having an incredible rookie year. He should be OROY. He's been amazing.


I'm just saying I want to see him have sustained success before I call the guy elite. I think that's fair. Michael Clayton is a perfect example of a player people jumped the gun on, see the stats I posted above. People were all over Kennan Allen, he's been pretty average this year. I do not think Odell will be a flash in the pan, but calling him an elite WR already is an overreaction and a bit disrespectful to guys who have done it a high level for more than a season.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71979 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:21 pm to
Clayton and Allen are not physically gifted like Beckham. They were like 4.7 40 guys at the combine. Beckham is 4.4 guy with a neat 40" vert. Huge hands etc

He's on a different level
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:29 pm to
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I'm just saying I want to see him have sustained success before I call the guy elite.


I see what you're saying, but after seeing what Beckham did to Sherman...the dude is elite.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39422 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:36 pm to
There are plenty of past instances where a guy just had a really good month and couldn't ever do it again. Beckham clearly isn't going to just flame out and become a nobody if he can stay healthy.
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