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re: Why is wanting better for LSU football a negative?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:56 am to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:56 am to RedTigerRulz
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Understanding might influence your hatred for Miles.
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:12 am to Gray Tiger
also our QB play, as well as our receiver play, would not have looked nearly as bad in a more modern style offense. Although the stats weren't that good due to how rarely we threw it, Jennings play, including throwing the ball, was much better in the Texas A&M game. Also the recievers were catching the ball much better and were finally getting open as well. Sure it was just A&M but it shows what is possible with the change of philosophy. MIles/Cam will hopefully continue to develop this style of offense through the bowl game and into next season. The outlook for this team is much better the farther we get from the 'imposing our will' style of offense.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:17 am to Gray Tiger
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Understanding might influence your hatred for Miles.
Hate is a strong word. I don't hate the man. I don't know him. You cant hate someone you don't personally know.
Do I hate his decisions on the field at times?.....definitely because they often defy logic.
What I would like to see (as would all negas) is for Miles and his supporters to quit making excuses for the shite show at QB and fix the problem....period. No excuses..fix it. And a few less "wait til next year" from your kind would also be refreshing.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:17 am to JaxTiger10
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You saying the offense LSU ran this year is a modern pro style offense is laughable.
Stop regurgitating what you hear on the damn rant.our offense is no different than bama's except they run out of the offset i formation and we run out of the traditional i formation. Just because you dont see a ton of 3 & 4 wr sets doesnt mean we arent modern.
Its like im talking to 8 year olds
Have you watched Bama this year?
I'm still waiting on you to give a valid comparison of what LSU ran this year compared to an NFL team. Be specific to formations, plays, and routes. Also give the same for Bama since according to you it is the same.
Educate me. Educate us all. Please. More than just saying "Damn idiots. LSU is pro style!"
Maybe even start a thread with the analysis. It could really serve to help educate everyone on modern offensive game planning and scheme.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:32 am to LSU Groupee
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The chances that you or me know something about college football that a offense staff with maybe 75 years of experience between them living and breathing the game 24-7 with the team is probably a 1000 to one or more.
I guarantee you that there are things I (and other people on this site) know about about college football that the offensive staff doesn't know. That's the nature of individual experience. That's why synergistic systems are effective. That's why good coaches often ask for player feedback. I'd bet there are plenty of people on this site who have much broader knowledge (therefore -- a different perspective) on certain things regarding the landscape of college football because coaches are focused on their specific team, conference, and region. That doesn't mean there is a lot of insight on this board. I don't think there is, but occasionally there are good ideas expressed.
One thing that many people on the Rant got right was Kendell Beckwith at MLB. Many had him tabbed as the better player well before the season. Your response to that might be some type of authoritative rationalization about KB not being ready to be a full-time player until the exact time the coaches put him in that role. If so, I would disagree.
Many people here wanted Brandon Harris to play vs. Texas A&M. Les Miles admitted that he made a mistake not playing Harris in that game. How do you square a situation like that, Groupee? Is Miles wrong in saying that he is wrong?
To clarify -- I'm not saying coaches should look to the Rant for advice. But, people are obviously going to give their opinion about LSU football on this site. Evidently, you don't like critical opinions, but for you to try to shut people down with a coaches-are-omniscient argument is silly, and sheds light on a disturbingly servile mindset. Humility is generally a good quality, but not when it is taken to the point of cutting off free thought.
Your appeal to authority logic is probably tied in with some feelings of reflected glory about LSU football. If that's how you want to enjoy football, fine. But not everyone is like you. Other people like to talk about different aspects of football. I like to talk about personnel, strategy, history, health/nutrition, etc. Should I just resign myself to not having my own opinions? Should I just let my mind be guided by fallacious appeals to authority (perhaps conditioned to do so by years of religious indoctrination and/or other forms of authoritative conditioning)? Well, I choose not to kowtow through life like that.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:38 am to ItsThatDude12
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Are you paid by the staff to defend them tooth and nail in every single thread?
Either that or he is the dumbest person that posts here....
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I know you feel like you're the smartest guy in the room
I sure hope he doesn't......
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:43 am to Patrick_Bateman
Patrick it is nice to have somebody on this board to agree with Geaux LSU
Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:13 am to Tigrwatchr
you are so right Tiger watcher this time anyway ,I haven't checked your history !
Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:20 am to RedTigerRulz
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Do I hate his decisions on the field at times?.....definitely because they often defy logic.
Whose logic? Yours? The issue always gets back to understanding. You don't. You and the rest of the lynch mob are reacting to having their expectations no being immediately met.
I'm comfortable in saying that 90% of you have no practical playing and/or coaching experience (well there is this one guy that cited his 6 years of experience coaching peewee flag football as his resume) so you have no clue as to how the dynamics of this team works. All you see is that you aren't getting the entertainment you want so you over react.
I fully believe that the coaching staff knows better than any of you what the problems are and that they are better equipped to deal with those problems. I also believe that they are doing what they believe is best to win games.
Exercise your Constitutional right to gripe, just don't expect any credibility because you have none.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
Recruiting is every thing in college ball when knocking our team you are knocking our recruiting ! don't make me comment on negatiger IQ !
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:05 am to nm1230
quote:This is a point that a lot of people who almost know everything about football make. Whereas a 5-step drop and a pass to a post-route demands that the opposing DL be nimble and alert, running the ball up the middle demands that they win a wrestling match against an OL. Running this play 15 times fatigues the defense, reduces the chance of a turnover, and improves ball control and time of possession. It isn't pretty and sparkly, and I'll admit that there are sometimes when I question its placement in the game plan, but most of you have a narrow view of the purpose of this play and don't realize how effective it can be.
Running into stacked boxes on 1st and 2nd down and trying to block 9 guys with seven isn't JUST an execution issue. It's easier for the other team to stop you if they know what's coming. It's easier for the other team to stop you if they don't have to defend 65% of the field.
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For someone that constantly runs from thread to thread trying to "educate " other posters on football knowledge you have absolutely no fricking idea what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:12 am to ironsides
quote:4) Have never had any affiliation with LSU
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Those same people who "demand excellence" from LSU
1) Do not understand the reasons why down years exist every now and then.
2) Have no realistic answer on how to fix it
3) Get super stoked about 5 star recruits that are coming in, and bitch about 5 star recruits that are now on the team not being good enough
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:17 am to inadaze
quote:Another lie by a liar telling a lie. You'll not cite a single poster who has this attitude.
they've already made up their minds that Miles is always right and completely above any criticism.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:20 am to RedTigerRulz
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Do I hate his decisions on the field at times?.....definitely because they often defy what you should do in Tecmo Bowl.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:23 am to ballscaster
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reduces the chance of a turnover, and improves ball control and time of possession. It isn't pretty and sparkly, and I'll admit that there are sometimes when I question its placement in the game plan, but most of you have a narrow view of the purpose of this play and don't realize how effective it can be.
No one is saying it can't be effective. The Ole Miss game proved that. LSU can line up against 80% of the teams they play and do this and win. What's plan B?
It's the childish argument that anyone who criticizes the offense and lack of passing game wants a Texas Tech offense. This is not true.
Try harder.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:30 am to nm1230
quote:I'll disagree here. I watch all the games with a large group, and there hasn't been a single time when this play has been run when I haven't heard at least ten grunts of frustration. There are plenty of people who think that this play should be wiped from the book.
No one is saying it can't be effective.
quote:If you're implying that there is no plan B, then that's dumb. I'd guess you aren't, but that's for you to decide.
The Ole Miss game proved that. LSU can line up against 80% of the teams they play and do this and win. What's plan B?
quote:What about if 80% of sidewalk fans believe it? Stereotypes aren't made up.
It's the childish argument that anyone who criticizes the offense and lack of passing game wants a Texas Tech offense. This is not true.
quote:Don't have to. The numbers are on my side.
Try harder.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:34 am to ballscaster
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You'll not cite a single poster who has this attitude.
I already addressed that with the alter, fool.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:38 am to inadaze
And you're a liar who resorts to exaggerating the opposing point of view in an attempt to mitigate the insecurity and desperation you feel when faced with the fact that your opinions are baseless and unsupported, as opposed to those of, say, mine, which are supported by every comprehensive statistic that deals with game results.
You people are just dishonest. We all know it.
You people are just dishonest. We all know it.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:38 am to boxcar willie
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And if your backs are split, I.e. one not in front of the other, it is not an I.
Holy shite. Im done talking to you. You dont know shite about football
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:45 am to ballscaster
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exaggerating the opposing point of view
I addressed this generally earlier in the thread. I am not saying that you specifically or all posters who defend Miles have the same attitude. I described a particular mindset that some seem to have -- if it doesn't apply to you, then I don't see what the issue is. Why are you personalizing my post?
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your opinions are baseless and unsupported
Which opinions?
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