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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:13 pm to chilge1
That's relatively interesting, but I don't trust stats anymore..
Since 2006 we have a 15 point (rounded up) average margin of victory.
We also average 3 losses (rounded up from 2.88) a year.
Since 2006 we have a 15 point (rounded up) average margin of victory.
We also average 3 losses (rounded up from 2.88) a year.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:13 pm to RANDY44
Yeah, that's true as well. Wonder how many years you'd have to go back to find a true freshman starter?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:15 pm to tgerb8
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That's relatively interesting, but I don't trust stats anymore..
Can't say I blame you. I only started this thread because of the B.S . being spewed about Total Offense and people's need to tear down the '13 offense.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:17 pm to HeavyCore
Do you like our record ????
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:23 pm to RANDY44
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Moral of the story. .. don't start Redshirt or True freshmen or true sophomores in the SEC.
Moral of the story may well be "Don't handle a QB situation so damned shitty that it can be used as an anti-LSU recruiting tool for years to come".
If I'm recruiting against LSU right now and I'm competing with them for a pure passer who runs a little, I'm showing him Jarret Lee's stat line over 8 games and then I'm gonna tell that recruit, "the guy who put these numbers up threw 2 INTs in the first half of a game and never saw the field again".
Then, I'm showing him all the times Miles said "his legs give us a chance" referencing the other guy.
Then, I'm pointing out that even with Mett, LSU ran the ball 61% of the time.
Basic sales pitch? "Son, you aren't going to be maximized over there if that guy lets you see the field at all. He's started one pure passer in that time and that dude's backup was a Freshman".
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:28 pm to chilge1
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Randall and Mauck were Jrs in '03
Mauck was like 28 though. Did the baseball thing first.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:30 pm to chilge1
So next year we should be better
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:31 pm to ShortyRob
You don't seem to have a good grasp of LSU recruiting. ..
Which QBs were LSU heavily recruiting since 2011 that went elsewhere?
And we aren't even targeting "pure passers" in recruiting. Harris, Franks, and Patterson are all DT guys
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used as an anti-LSU recruiting tool for years to come".
Which QBs were LSU heavily recruiting since 2011 that went elsewhere?
And we aren't even targeting "pure passers" in recruiting. Harris, Franks, and Patterson are all DT guys
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:32 pm to HeavyCore
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I like our rushing attack. I like our play calling.
Hi Les. I like running it most of the time too, but our play calling has sucked.
Also, the stats the OP posted also show that we've had few very good offensive years in the last 10 years.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:33 pm to chilge1
Pretty good correlation but for 2010
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:35 pm to BayouBengals03
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So next year we should be better
Here's hoping. It does add a new element to the Harris/Jennings debate if the trend holds. Harris would have to be the best QB we've had since Russell.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:35 pm to The Mick
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Jamarcus Russell folks
Yep, and that was with a piss poor running attack the 1st half of the season.
Against Auburn, we kept running our fat running backs up the middle for 1 ypc only to have JR have to bail us out on a 3rd and long.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:36 pm to chilge1
Hm... not significant enough to make a point.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:37 pm to dagrippa
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Pretty good correlation but for 2010
Who knows what happened to Jefferson that year. All we know is it resulted in Crowton getting the axe and bringing in Krags
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:38 pm to Sev09
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Hm... not significant enough to make a point.
Why is that?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:49 pm to RANDY44
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Moral of the story. .. don't start Redshirt or True freshmen or true sophomores in the SEC. FIFY
No doubt, it makes things much harder, but our "system" makes it even harder. Auburn's true sophomore QB, Jeremy Johnson, was forced to start the first half of the first game against Arkansas this year due to Marshall getting suspended and he threw for more yards in one half than either of our QBs threw for an entire game this year. Again, that was in the 1st game of the year. He had two TDs and they put up 21 points in one half.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:56 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Jordan Jefferson says you cant judge a quarterback based on one half of football.
Maybe our system does make it harder to master, but once you have, we play for championships.
Maybe our system does make it harder to master, but once you have, we play for championships.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:13 pm to chilge1
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Jordan Jefferson says you cant judge a quarterback based on one half of football. Maybe our system does make it harder to master, but once you have, we play for championships.
My point was not to judge the QB, but just to show how little our passing game progressed this year when Auburn's backup true sophomore QB threw for more yards in one half of game #1 than our QBs threw for individually in an entire game this year. And that was against a team that shut us out.
I think we mostly played for the 2011 championship because our D was incredible and because of Honey Badger. If JJ and JL mastered the system, then the system is no good because we had 35 total yards passing in the SECCG and 53 in the national championship game (and he basically said JL couldn't handle Bama's pass rush and was too scared to put him in there as a 5th year senior).
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:18 pm to chilge1
Please note that no single statistic is going to be determinative because no offensive statistic can take into account things like turnovers that result in opponents scoring. That being said, yards per play is a measure of the effectiveness of each play, so doesn't the number of plays deserve scrutiny when looking at overall effectiveness of an offense?
Also, every play run must be viewed as an opportunity to score. Wouldn't you care to compare LSU's opportunities to score to its opponents and/or other teams? Without bothering to do any research, I would hazard to guess that winning teams tend to run more offensive plays than losing teams. So a positive margin in plays run might be a useful metric for "successful" teams.
Also, every play run must be viewed as an opportunity to score. Wouldn't you care to compare LSU's opportunities to score to its opponents and/or other teams? Without bothering to do any research, I would hazard to guess that winning teams tend to run more offensive plays than losing teams. So a positive margin in plays run might be a useful metric for "successful" teams.
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