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Senate Dems are releasing their one-sided report on "enhanced interrogation"
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:36 pm
Tomorrow morning.
Wanna guess what else is tomorrow?
Gruber's testimony.
Wanna guess what else is tomorrow?
Gruber's testimony.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 6:37 pm
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:38 pm to udtiger
And you know which one the MSM will run with ...
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:42 pm to udtiger
Water board Gruber? 
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:45 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Water board Gruber?
Sounds reasonable...
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:53 pm to udtiger
quote:
Wanna guess what else is tomorrow?
Gruber's testimony.
Exactl . Their distraction technique won't work though except on abc, cbs, nbc, pbs & cnn.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:59 pm to udtiger
Well, they have to release it tomorrow because Wednesday would be far too inconvenient. 
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:58 pm to udtiger
Dimocrats have prostituted themselves for this assclown of a president and their entire party has become a laughing stock in the process.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:52 pm to udtiger
Libs have anything to say about this?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:55 pm to udtiger
I have no comment on the timing. I'm fine with admitting it's chicken shite politics. I'm more concerned with the higher-level officials trying to scare or guilt trip the Senate in to not releasing the report. "This will cause attacks and violence."
Know what else causes attacks and violence? Indiscriminate torture and indefinite detention.
Know what else causes attacks and violence? Indiscriminate torture and indefinite detention.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:59 pm to boosiebadazz
Obama has signed off on the release because it will hurt America and stir shite up around the world. That's who our president is.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:03 pm to Scoop
that's what I love about the subjectivity of politics. You can always frame your narrative to fit your preconceived notions. It's great!
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:04 pm to boosiebadazz
It's a classic trial technique to get your bad facts out front early.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:07 pm to TrueTiger
Oh, it's not going to be a pretty report. It wasn't a pretty time. Osama bin Laden won the short-term on 9/11. However, we can win in the long-term if we stay faithful to our liberal democracy principles. And part of that is transparency and sunlight into the inner workings of government and holding people accountable. Nation of laws, not men, and whatnot.
However, I doubt we see any indictments from this.
However, I doubt we see any indictments from this.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:10 pm to boosiebadazz
Glad to see Obama is all about transparency for an administration that isn't his.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:13 pm to udtiger
while gitmo remains open I stand by my belief that the system is bigger than any one man
that's why i look at rand with a skeptical eye. the behemoth is just too big.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:20 pm to udtiger
It's bullshite that the report is even being released. The public doesn't need to be in the loop. We want our country protected but then quetsion and find fault with the methods used? Frick that.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:25 pm to Coach72
And that is going to be the big give and take with terrorism and a liberal democracy for my generation at least
We now have Michael Hayden playing the part of Colonel Jessup, though
We now have Michael Hayden playing the part of Colonel Jessup, though
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:10 pm to boosiebadazz
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Indiscriminate torture
Meh. We didn't do that. You may call it torture (and I don't have that luxury - I used to be in the HUMINT business - although in a very small role) - but it wasn't indiscriminate. It saved lots of lives, was targeted at getting the correct information and it led to Bin Laden, ultimately.
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indefinite detention.
I don't like this, but what's the alternative? Let them go? Nobody has the stomach for that. I would just turn them over the government in place where we took them from the battlefield - but that's primarily Iraq and Afghanistan where they won't be treated gently - at all.
I assume you'd be against that. So we're left with killing them or keeping them.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:40 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Zero Dark Thirty was a movie.
it led to Bin Laden
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:46 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:They did just transfer 6 guys out to a country in Eastern Europe. There are about 130 left and the administration seems to be shopping them out to any takers. Maybe there's a market for middle age men sex trade? I am all against sex slaves, but maybe we can make a deal before we totally close the window.
while gitmo remains open
I stand by my belief that the system is bigger than any one man
that's why i look at rand with a skeptical eye. the behemoth is just too big.
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