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What would be wrong with using this format to determine CFB Champion?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:15 am
Why not just take conference champions only? This way, the smaller schools can't fricking complain they don't get a shot, there's no human bias in a committee, and people can't bitch about computers.
It is a playoff and it keeps the regular season EXTREMELY meaningful. IT doesn't give second chances and it makes conference games INTENSE.
Teams would schedule harder OOC teams to prepare themselves for in conference play since OOC losses wouldn't hurt as much.
This year would be:
(committee can seed them)
1. Alabama- SEC Champ
2. Oregon- PAC 12 Champ
3. FSU- ACC Champ
4. OSU- B1G Champ
5. Baylor- Big XII Champ
6. Boise St- MWC Champ
7. Marshall- CUSA Champ
8. NIU- Mac Champ
The only thing the committee would decide is seeding and which 3 smaller conference champions get a chance outside of the power 5. This year, ULL and Memphis would be left out.
It is a playoff and it keeps the regular season EXTREMELY meaningful. IT doesn't give second chances and it makes conference games INTENSE.
Teams would schedule harder OOC teams to prepare themselves for in conference play since OOC losses wouldn't hurt as much.
This year would be:
(committee can seed them)
1. Alabama- SEC Champ
2. Oregon- PAC 12 Champ
3. FSU- ACC Champ
4. OSU- B1G Champ
5. Baylor- Big XII Champ
6. Boise St- MWC Champ
7. Marshall- CUSA Champ
8. NIU- Mac Champ
The only thing the committee would decide is seeding and which 3 smaller conference champions get a chance outside of the power 5. This year, ULL and Memphis would be left out.
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:16 am to Moustache
quote:
Why not just take conference champions only?
some people would rather the best 4 team make the playoff
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:17 am to Moustache
The big five conferences would never agree to it.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:17 am to TigerintheNO
quote:This.quote:some people would rather the best 4 team make the playoff
Why not just take conference champions only?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:19 am to Moustache
quote:
Why not just take conference champions only?
because that system would require a presumption from the outset that
1. all conferences are equal
2. all conferences have equal/similar determinations of a champ
3. no non-conference champs are superior to another conference's champ
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:19 am to TigerintheNO
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some people would rather the best 4 team make the playoff
A lot of people are in to second chances apparently. I like the regular season to be meaningful as opposed to NCAA basketball where people just watch at the end.
I mean, I'm okay with 4 teams. 8 playoff teams or 16 (which is where it's heading) is just fricking ridiciulous.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:19 am to Moustache
So ooc games no longer matter?
Sounds like fun
no thanks
/thread
Sounds like fun
no thanks
/thread
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:19 am to Moustache
Because it's dumb. I don't want to watch some scrub MAC team that would be a middle of the road Power 5 team in the playoff. Save that slot for a more deserving team from a better conference.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:20 am to Moustache
quote:
Teams would schedule harder OOC teams to prepare themselves for in conference play since OOC losses wouldn't hurt as much.
Or they would schedule the weakest games possible to make them de facto bye weeks.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:21 am to Moustache
quote:
What would be wrong with using this format to determine CFB Champion?
Because Notre Dame would have to join a conference and we know that can't happen
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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because that system would require a presumption from the outset that
1. all conferences are equal
2. all conferences have equal/similar determinations of a champ
3. no non-conference champs are superior to another conference's champ
In NCAA BB, the smaller conference teams who get in over the larger conference teams aren't better.
I"m not saying all conferences are equal. But the BCS and "committee" we have just assumes which conference is stronger. Why not let it play out on the field? If their conference is truly weaker, then they wouldn't win the playoff. IT'll make SEC prime time games pretty intense.
Who cares how a conference determines a champ?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:22 am to rocket31
quote:
So ooc games no longer matter?
Sounds like fun
no thanks
/thread
I'd rather see a game that doesn't really matter between Alabama and Oregon or Alabama and ohio state over a fricking game like Alabama and charleston southern that does matter.
You're just pissed because ND would finally have to join something.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:23 am to Moustache
quote:
In NCAA BB, the smaller conference teams who get in over the larger conference teams aren't better.
and their system is an absolute abortion
quote:
But the BCS and "committee" we have just assumes which conference is stronger.
assumptions...and multiple statistical models
quote:
If their conference is truly weaker, then they wouldn't win the playoff.
if this is your argument, you're 100% admitting your system is illogical
quote:
Who cares how a conference determines a champ?
ask TCU/Baylor
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:23 am to Matisyeezy
quote:
Because it's dumb. I don't want to watch some scrub MAC team that would be a middle of the road Power 5 team in the playoff. Save that slot for a more deserving team from a better conference.
So, I guess people really do love them some second chances. Must be the millennial generation I guess. A team in the power 5 that didn't win their conference had their shot at the playoff and blew it. Win.your.conference.
How can a team who didn't win their conference be national champion? It just logically is retarded.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:24 am to Athanatos
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Or they would schedule the weakest games possible to make them de facto bye weeks.
And what would change?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:24 am to Moustache
quote:
You're just pissed because ND would finally have to join something.
what? could care less if ND joins the ACC, but at this point it serves zero purpose to do so.
Your idea is dumb regardless, youre turning a 12 game season into 8 regular season games and 4 preseason games (just lol)
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:25 am to Moustache
ULL would be left out because they didn't win their conference
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:26 am to Moustache
8 team playoff 5 conference winners, 3 at large
Since Schools cry about academics, lol. You keep it the same 5 weeks as BCS. We would have to wait 5 weeks for that shite show.
week1 Quarterfinals
week2 Bye
week3 Semis
week4 Bye
week5 Championship
We lose this 5 week layoff crap, and you still have same amount of time between title game and end of regular season.
Since Schools cry about academics, lol. You keep it the same 5 weeks as BCS. We would have to wait 5 weeks for that shite show.
week1 Quarterfinals
week2 Bye
week3 Semis
week4 Bye
week5 Championship
We lose this 5 week layoff crap, and you still have same amount of time between title game and end of regular season.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:26 am to Moustache
Because college football fans are obsessed with keeping the system subjective
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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nd their system is an absolute abortion
I agree and CFB is heading more towards that abortion. It will be 16 teams eventually. THis means a lot of 3 loss teams will be given chances at a title. A lot of rematches and a lot of people not giving a single frick about the regular season similar to NCAA BB.
quote:
assumptions...and multiple statistical models
Or we could actually watch the game on the field. Statistical models aren't always accurate and without bias.
quote:
ask TCU/Baylor
Oh well. Tough shite for them.
Ultimately, I'd rather go back to BCS with plus 1 or plus 2 if absolutely necessary. But, I'd rather a conference champion playoff than an arbitrary 8 or 16 team playoff which would render the regular season meaningless.
Hell, the only reason people even pay attention to NFL regular season is gambling and fantasy. CFB doesn't have those things at the level of NFL.
16 team playoff combined with the concussion shite will be the end of the interest in the sport IMO.
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