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More Stats: TCU/Baylor/OSU/FSU
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:49 pm
So I was bored and put some basic info into a spreadsheet. Obviously stats can prove/disprove anything, etc., but take this FWIW.
TCU and Baylor are pretty bad and OSU and FSU are better than I would have thought. I took the scores and the CFCC composite rankings of each team's opponents. Any "#X" designation is the time a team was ranked at the time the game was played.
Baylor
10-1 with Average score 49.8-23.9 against average rank opponent of 73.8
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#9 TCU 4
@ #15 Oklahoma 18
@ Texas 41
Oklahoma State 61
Texas Tech* 78
Loss:
@ West Virginia 32
Sagaran SOS rank: 66
Opponents: 56-70, average rank 73.8
Baylor's SOS will rise with KSU this weekend
TCU
10-1 with Average score 46.1-21.9 against average rank opponent of 59.3
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#7 Kansas State 11
#4 Oklahoma 18
Minnesota 31
@ #20 West Virginia 32
@ Texas 41
Loss:
@ #5Baylor 8
Sagaran SOS Rank: 31
Opponents: 67-59, average 59.3 Rank
TCU's opponent ranks will drop with ISU game
Ohio State
11-1 with Average score 44.1-22.9 against average rank opponent of 59.4
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
@ #8 Michigan State 10
@ #25 Minnesota 31
Cincinnati 46
@ Maryland 48
Rutgers 52
Loss:
Virginia Tech 56
Sagaran SOS rank: 66
Opponents: 75-66, average rank 59.4
OSU SOS will improve with Wisconsin
Florida State
12-0 with Average score 34.6-22 against average rank opponent of 62.75
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#22 Clemson 21 OT
@ #25 Louisville 24
Florida 34
#5 Notre Dame 35
Boston College 42
Loss:
None
Sagaran SOS Rank: 49
Opponents: 72-70, average 62.75 Rank
FSU SOS will rise with Georgia Tech
HEAD TO HEAD AND COMMON OPPONENTS
Baylor and TCU:
West Virginia
Oklahoma
Kansas
SMU
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
TCU 47.1-19.8 w/4 road games
Baylor 43.5-21.4 w/3 road games
Ohio State and TCU:
Game 2 Minnesota @ TCU: 30-7 TCU
Game 10 Ohio State @ Minnesota: 31-24
FSU/Baylor/TCU:
Game 1, FSU vs Oklahoma State (neutral), 37-31 FSU
Game 6, Oklahoma St @ TCU, 42-9 TCU
Game 10, Oklahoma St @ Baylor, 49-28 Baylor
...So I think OSU deserves a little more credit and certainly under no condition should TCU and Baylor both get in.
If take a ratio of point differential/average rank (higher the better) you get:
TCU:.41
OSU:.36
Baylor: .35
FSU: .20
TCU and Baylor are pretty bad and OSU and FSU are better than I would have thought. I took the scores and the CFCC composite rankings of each team's opponents. Any "#X" designation is the time a team was ranked at the time the game was played.
Baylor
10-1 with Average score 49.8-23.9 against average rank opponent of 73.8
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#9 TCU 4
@ #15 Oklahoma 18
@ Texas 41
Oklahoma State 61
Texas Tech* 78
Loss:
@ West Virginia 32
Sagaran SOS rank: 66
Opponents: 56-70, average rank 73.8
Baylor's SOS will rise with KSU this weekend
TCU
10-1 with Average score 46.1-21.9 against average rank opponent of 59.3
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#7 Kansas State 11
#4 Oklahoma 18
Minnesota 31
@ #20 West Virginia 32
@ Texas 41
Loss:
@ #5Baylor 8
Sagaran SOS Rank: 31
Opponents: 67-59, average 59.3 Rank
TCU's opponent ranks will drop with ISU game
Ohio State
11-1 with Average score 44.1-22.9 against average rank opponent of 59.4
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
@ #8 Michigan State 10
@ #25 Minnesota 31
Cincinnati 46
@ Maryland 48
Rutgers 52
Loss:
Virginia Tech 56
Sagaran SOS rank: 66
Opponents: 75-66, average rank 59.4
OSU SOS will improve with Wisconsin
Florida State
12-0 with Average score 34.6-22 against average rank opponent of 62.75
Top 5 Wins and current CFCC Rank:
#22 Clemson 21 OT
@ #25 Louisville 24
Florida 34
#5 Notre Dame 35
Boston College 42
Loss:
None
Sagaran SOS Rank: 49
Opponents: 72-70, average 62.75 Rank
FSU SOS will rise with Georgia Tech
HEAD TO HEAD AND COMMON OPPONENTS
Baylor and TCU:
West Virginia
Oklahoma
Kansas
SMU
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
TCU 47.1-19.8 w/4 road games
Baylor 43.5-21.4 w/3 road games
Ohio State and TCU:
Game 2 Minnesota @ TCU: 30-7 TCU
Game 10 Ohio State @ Minnesota: 31-24
FSU/Baylor/TCU:
Game 1, FSU vs Oklahoma State (neutral), 37-31 FSU
Game 6, Oklahoma St @ TCU, 42-9 TCU
Game 10, Oklahoma St @ Baylor, 49-28 Baylor
...So I think OSU deserves a little more credit and certainly under no condition should TCU and Baylor both get in.
If take a ratio of point differential/average rank (higher the better) you get:
TCU:.41
OSU:.36
Baylor: .35
FSU: .20
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:50 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
West Virginia is ranked?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:52 pm to SabiDojo
They were at the time. That's the first number.
The second number is the current computer ranking.
The second number is the current computer ranking.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:03 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
OSU SOS will improve with Georgia Tech
Wisconsin. But yes.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:18 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
So I was bored
Every post on this site should be required to start with this phrase.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:44 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
OSU SOS will improve with Wisconsin
I'll be cheering my arse of and have hope, but we're going to lose
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:58 am to BuckeyeFan87
Who knows. OSU shoukd get in if they win
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:00 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
Who knows. OSU shoukd get in if they win
Over who?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:15 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Today, Ohio state plays just their second ranked team. Michigan state is the other. Schedule is weak sauce. They will have faced the fewest ranked teams.
PS: who cares where the teams were ranked when Ohio state played them.
PS: who cares where the teams were ranked when Ohio state played them.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:16 pm to BayouBengals03
I don't know, just stirring the pot
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:18 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
TCU will get in ahead of Ohio State.
Ohio State needs FSU to lose.
That's their only chance.
Ohio State needs FSU to lose.
That's their only chance.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:24 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
Ghostfacedistiller
Thanks for the post.
Looking at FSU's schedule I think you certainly have to give credit for at least beating a lot of decent teams and simply not losing.
However, it also underlines what the committee is doing with their rankings that when you couple how much they've struggled with almost every one of those teams with the real lack of even a single highly considered opponent so far.
Until Ga Tech tonight, Home in OT over Clemson is the probably best win and Clemson really doesn't have the most impressive resume themselves in terms of quality wins.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 2:25 pm
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