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How much do you think weather plays into coaches' decisions to take new jobs?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:43 pm
Is the snowy tundra of Michigan a deterrent to big name coaches with secure jobs in pleasant climates and are already paid well?
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:44 pm to Chicken
It has to play a part. Games over the last couple of weekends have been in the 20s. That's damn cold--especially when you have a good thing going down south of the Mason Dixon.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:45 pm to Chicken
I think it is for guys who are not accustomed to that kind of environment from growing up.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:45 pm to Chicken
It's probably a factor but I think it's mostly about the opportunity. Coaches can't afford to turn down too many good opportunities because in that business, you never know whether another one is going to come along. Also, not everybody likes hot weather.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:47 pm to MountainTiger
quote:sure, but the short list for Michigan will contain names that aren't in this situation you describe.
Coaches can't afford to turn down too many good opportunities because in that business, you never know whether another one is going to come along.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:48 pm to Chicken
Very little I imagine for most. A few guys would have it towards the top, guys like spurrier that care as much about golfing and getting hammered on a boat as they do football
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Chicken
quote:
sure, but the short list for Michigan will contain names that aren't in this situation you describe.
That is why I don't think Michigan is getting anyone on that short list.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:51 pm to Chicken
I don't know. But I bet geauxxtigers23 does...
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:51 pm to Chicken
quote:I think it plays more into the minds of recruits.....getting them to leave the Sun Belt for Rust Belt can be a hard sell.
How much do you think weather plays into coaches' decisions to take new jobs?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:55 pm to Chicken
I would think that the same factors that anyone considers in relocating for a job would come into play. Of course, just like for us, those factors can be overridden.
As a southerner, I would look at the Michigan job and see a storied program/institution with broad support that happens to be located in a harsh environment in a state and conference of declining importance.
As a southerner, I would look at the Michigan job and see a storied program/institution with broad support that happens to be located in a harsh environment in a state and conference of declining importance.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:56 pm to Chicken
quote:
sure, but the short list for Michigan will contain names that aren't in this situation you describe.
There are some coaches who can cherry pick their next jobs, true. Among those, some probably think it's pretty important and some probably don't give a crap one way or the other. It's probably more of a factor for their families. I can imagine that a lot of guys wouldn't want to move their school-age kids up to Michigan if they spent their whole lives in the south.
Personally, it would be a major factor for me. I wouldn't want to work in a place like Arizona, Texas or Florida. However my guess is that most coaches are more interested in whether the situation is a good fit for them or not.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:57 pm to Chicken
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Is the snowy tundra of Michigan a deterrent to big name coaches with secure jobs in pleasant climates and are already paid well?
not if there is enough hot chocolate in the state:)
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:58 pm to Chicken
Most coaches would probably go where they had the best chance of winning. It could be a deterrent because most cold weather states produce fewer recruits and that makes them more difficult places to win for the most part
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:58 pm to Chicken
It definitely did where Spurrier was concerned. But not as much as location, location, location ... and conference.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:58 pm to Chicken
As far as college jobs are concerned, I can't think of it as a big issue, no. Seriously, how many games are at risk of being affected by really bad cold weather? I'd say maybe 2-3 a year, max, given the fact the season ends in late November.
Now, if you're an NFL coach, that's another matter. Just thinking of that 2008 NFC Championship Game between the Giants and Packers in Lambeau a few years ago---or of the Niners-Packers game there just last year---literally sends a chill down my spine.
I mean, who can forget Tom Coughlin's raw, windblown face? Freaky.
Now, if you're an NFL coach, that's another matter. Just thinking of that 2008 NFC Championship Game between the Giants and Packers in Lambeau a few years ago---or of the Niners-Packers game there just last year---literally sends a chill down my spine.
I mean, who can forget Tom Coughlin's raw, windblown face? Freaky.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:59 pm to hondapa26
I think it plays into the process, not theirs, but the ability to recruit players to that environment. Speed and athleticism is documented in the South, getting top guys like that North is a problem. Back in the day, when those big schools were the only ones on national t.v., not as much.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:59 pm to hondapa26
For the coaches themselves, likely minimal. They don't have a lot of downtime and can travel for vacation when they do.
Now families, that's a different matter. I can easily see the wife of a major coach vetoing a move to a colder climate
"No way I'm gonna live where there's a 6 month winter while you work 100hr weeks!"
Now families, that's a different matter. I can easily see the wife of a major coach vetoing a move to a colder climate
"No way I'm gonna live where there's a 6 month winter while you work 100hr weeks!"
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:01 pm to ffhouston
quote:This was more about moving your family to a cold weather environment.
Seriously, how many games are really affected by bad weather? Maybe 2-3 a year, max, given the fact the season ends in late November.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:06 pm to dante
The best recruits are in the deep south and California. Many good recruits come from the colder areas but percentage wise the warmer climes win with ease.
I think it is more demographics than weather. There is an obvious historical fact that impacts this, but none of us needs to go there. This is exacerbated by population and economic growth in the south and CA. vs the NE and midwest.
If a coach looks at these factors. it may make a difference. At the same time, the competition up north is not as good. Urban made that choice and it may have hurt him or helped him, time will tell.
I think it is more demographics than weather. There is an obvious historical fact that impacts this, but none of us needs to go there. This is exacerbated by population and economic growth in the south and CA. vs the NE and midwest.
If a coach looks at these factors. it may make a difference. At the same time, the competition up north is not as good. Urban made that choice and it may have hurt him or helped him, time will tell.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:06 pm to Chicken
Eh, I don't think the family stands in the way of a job the coach really wants due to the weather...at least not if the family has northern roots.
Interesting thought, though. I wonder how CUM's family reacted to the news they were moving from Florida and heading to Columbus, for example? That'd be a good "case in point" given it's his "dream job" and all.
Interesting thought, though. I wonder how CUM's family reacted to the news they were moving from Florida and heading to Columbus, for example? That'd be a good "case in point" given it's his "dream job" and all.
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