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re: Why can't we just get a mildly talented pro-style qb?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:14 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:14 pm to boxcar willie
quote:pfffffahahaha
Talent is talent and you win with talent.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:15 pm to lsu2006
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quote: Tell me more about the passing prowess of our recent DT qb's. Perrilloux could have been great. Jefferson was an idiot and not a good QB. Jennnings isn't a true dual threat because he can't throw. Got any more questions?
You just summed it up. We try to get dual threats and they suck. Let's just get someone that does one threat that's actualy a threat.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:17 pm to poochie
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You just summed it up. We try to get dual threats and they suck. Let's just get someone that does one threat that's actualy a threat.
You can't be this dense.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:17 pm to poochie
Just because AJ cant throw doesn't mean that other DT QBs can't. That's the whole point in dual threat.
I agree with the philosophy, they are just not there yet. Why have a statue vs someone that can pick up first downs with their legs?
I agree with the philosophy, they are just not there yet. Why have a statue vs someone that can pick up first downs with their legs?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:21 pm to NGATiger
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Anthony Jennings has great measureables for a QB, but the mentality and "it" factor can't be measured.
"It" factor, perhaps, is difficult to measure. Mentality is less difficult. The ability to assimilate information and deploy it requires a certain amount of intelligence. Since Flynn, that element has been MIA.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:21 pm to poochie
Duel threat QBs can be major weapons in a pro style offense.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:21 pm to poochie
I swear to god I'm going to pistol whip the next person who says "pro style QB"
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:24 pm to poochie
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serious? You can't see the different types of talent in a mett vs a Harris?
are u serious? So Mett would have not been as good a QB if he would have had the ability to run is what you are saying.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:28 pm to boxcar willie
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are u serious? So Mett would have not been as good a QB if he would have had the ability to run is what you are saying.
Thanks you. It's amazing to me that there are so many people that claim to be football fans that know so little about the very basics of the sport.
"Hey our last good QB was 6'6" and couldn't move. LET'S GET NOTHING BUT THOSE, THEY'RE ALL AWESOME, NO MORE QBs THAT CAN RUN!"
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:29 pm to poochie
It's pretty obvious Miles doesn't want a true pro-style QB in his offense,for whatever reason.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:30 pm to boxcar willie
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why are you guys so hung up on monikers or catagories. Talent is talent and you win with talent.
Because we keep bringing in "dual threat" players and they cannot pass. And never develop passing skills. The only good QB we've had in 7 years was a pocket passer.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:30 pm to LMfan
First of all, we run a pro style offense. We all agree with this, right?
So secondly, we've been trying for the better part of a decade to get a dual threat qb to play in this offense. I FULLY AGREE in theory that if we could find one, it would be AWESOME!
But, with the sample size we've had since 07, let's look at the success we've had trying to accomplish this:
Perriloux thugged out leading to four years of jl/JJ in 08, 09, 10, and 11. 12 and 13 were mett, 14 was aj.
So, we had success at the qb in what, sporadically with lee and kinda 12 and def 13 with mett.
We try to get someone that can do both but doesn't do either very well. Whereas if we were to go out and get a pro style qb that was good at that portion of the game, we could make waves.
So secondly, we've been trying for the better part of a decade to get a dual threat qb to play in this offense. I FULLY AGREE in theory that if we could find one, it would be AWESOME!
But, with the sample size we've had since 07, let's look at the success we've had trying to accomplish this:
Perriloux thugged out leading to four years of jl/JJ in 08, 09, 10, and 11. 12 and 13 were mett, 14 was aj.
So, we had success at the qb in what, sporadically with lee and kinda 12 and def 13 with mett.
We try to get someone that can do both but doesn't do either very well. Whereas if we were to go out and get a pro style qb that was good at that portion of the game, we could make waves.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:34 pm to NGATiger
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QB isn't exactly an easy position to scout. Anthony Jennings has great measureables for a QB, but the mentality and "it" factor can't be measured.
No he doesn't. Jennings' arm strength (quite possibly one of the most important measurable for a QB) is well below average for a college QB.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:38 pm to UpToPar
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Jennings' arm strength (quite possibly one of the most important measurable for a QB) is well below average for a college QB.
His arm strength isn't great, but its not well below average either. His touch, on the other hand, is wildly inconsistent. Someone floating balls doesn't mean he doesn't have good arm strength, I've seen it jump off his arm on occasion.
Now compared to Harris, Jennings has a noodle arm.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:39 pm to poochie
quote:Because the OL can't block sometimes which is why a dual threat is what we need ..Get an impressive OL and I'm all for that..
Why can't we just get a mildly talented pro-style qb?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:40 pm to UpToPar
Threads like this serve no useful purpose.
Miles has been selecting the LSU QB for a decade and the results are __________ .
Fill in the blank.
There's no point in arguing about it. Whether you fill in "good" "bad" or "average" the guy who disagrees with you will never change his mind.
All I can say is that Miles will be selecting the starting LSU QB for the forseeable future (maybe even another decade) and the overall result will be not much different than what we've seen in the past, which means more ________.
Miles has been selecting the LSU QB for a decade and the results are __________ .
Fill in the blank.
There's no point in arguing about it. Whether you fill in "good" "bad" or "average" the guy who disagrees with you will never change his mind.
All I can say is that Miles will be selecting the starting LSU QB for the forseeable future (maybe even another decade) and the overall result will be not much different than what we've seen in the past, which means more ________.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:45 pm to Champagne
But it's amazing that some here would rather a dual threat that can't do either effectively rather than try and get a pro style that can actually throw to our 5 star receivers and hand off crisply to our all world backs. Maybe we have an actual threat through the air so teams don't put 11 men in the box. Just think how good our running game would be going against 7-8 men in the box.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:47 pm to poochie
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But it's amazing that some here would rather a dual threat that can't do either effectively
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:50 pm to lsu2006
Why the face palm? Someone said the don't want a statue back there.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 1:53 pm to lsu2006
Your point about a dual threat QB just being a pocket passer who can run is wrong. Sorry. If that were true, people would only recruit dual threats. I will rephrase the point so it's easier: we need a QB that will not waste practice reps on running plays, who has spent his entire life learning the intricacies of passing the ball rather than learning how to read running lanes.
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