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Next millenial group to blame: millenial doctors who rely too much on technology
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:16 am to Jim Rockford
The use of technology doesn't really bother me. Like the old saying goes, work smart, not hard. We are now able to operate in a much more efficient manner and there's nothing wrong with that. This, however, is kinda scary:
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"We absolutely consult Wikipedia, not the library to find the most up-to-date medical research," she explains.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:20 am to Jim Rockford
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"We absolutely consult Wikipedia, not the library to find the most up-to-date medical research," she explains.
Take this with a grain of salt as this was quoted by a doctor who graduated medical school 6 months ago. Not many doctors think nor act this way. That recent graduate sounds ignorant.
I agree with many points in the article. Many doctors nowadays put their life in front of their careers which is a shift from how medicine was previously practiced.
As for doctors working for hospitals instead of in solo practice, I contribute that to more of a shift in how health care is reimbursed and organized rather than people just not wanting to own a practice.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 11:22 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:22 am to Jim Rockford
quote:That sounds typical of a Med Student. They just don't physically go to class. No biggie.
"If you want to do the whole thing by video stream, you can," she says. "I would wake up at 10 a.m., work out for an hour or so, get some lunch and then video stream for 6 hours and then go to happy hour. It actually was not that bad."
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We absolutely consult Wikipedia, not the library to find the most up-to-date medical research," she explains.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:34 am to La Place Mike
I had a pt in really bad shape and bad veins. Needed more access. A doc comes in and says to set up central line. I'm happy to. He proceeds to make a bloody freaking mess and uses several kits and still can't get it. Says he needs to take a break and he will try again. I say, no we're okay.
He comes back ten minutes later and gets it . Things get better, calm down. And a coworker says go look at the computer.
MD had youtubed how to put in a central line.
Now, it worked out but had I realized I'm not sure I would have let him go ahead.
He comes back ten minutes later and gets it . Things get better, calm down. And a coworker says go look at the computer.
MD had youtubed how to put in a central line.
Now, it worked out but had I realized I'm not sure I would have let him go ahead.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:38 am to La Place Mike
Practicing physicians use actual scientific literature to guide therapy not wikipedia.
It's easy when your a med student or junior resident to pull up Wikipedia for quick primer before rounding but when it's your arse and license on the line you better have a better source then wikipedia guiding your decisions.
And nobody I know uses wikipedia. We all use Uptodate.
It's easy when your a med student or junior resident to pull up Wikipedia for quick primer before rounding but when it's your arse and license on the line you better have a better source then wikipedia guiding your decisions.
And nobody I know uses wikipedia. We all use Uptodate.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:38 am to upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:03 pm to Jim Rockford
An intern resident doesn't really know jack. Once they've had a few years doing actual work, it will change. They don't know the severity of a malpractice suit yet (bc medical school does not prepare you for the business of Medicine), but they will soon learn.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:05 pm to Scruffy
to be completely fair, they may mean they use it to find references and then seek out the actual references to evaluate independently.
I've been guilty of this more than once for particularly obscure cases
I've been guilty of this more than once for particularly obscure cases
Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:16 pm to Jim Rockford
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University of Texas Southwestern
And speaking of high tech, our new university hospital is retarded nice.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:32 pm to upgrayedd
This individual was probably just dropped from her physicians group as statements like that will jack up that malpractice insurance rate.
I would never seek treatment from this person. Even basic researchers know not to trust Wikipedia.
I would never seek treatment from this person. Even basic researchers know not to trust Wikipedia.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:50 pm to upgrayedd
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quote: "We absolutely consult Wikipedia, not the library to find the most up-to-date medical research," she explains.
The irony of this statement is that up to date (the website) is the best site for looking up things like this.
ETA: and you can claim CME credits
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:04 pm to Sunday Gravy
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I would never seek treatment from this person. Even basic researchers know not to trust Wikipedia.
From what I did with research papers in college, you never actually reference Wikipedia, you just reference the articles it references. It's a good place to start finding sources.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:11 pm to upgrayedd
There is nothing wrong with Wikipedia if you actually check the articles it references.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:45 pm to RadTiger
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And nobody I know uses wikipedia. We all use Uptodate.
UpToDate is my favorite resource. As far as relying on technology, years and years ago, doctors were faced with doing something they weren't sure about vs going to the library and digging up a publication or reading part of a textbook. When it came down to time-sensitive stuff, brushing up on something simply couldn't happen until after they had made some decision. This day and age, it's much easier to fact-check yourself before making decisions in situations you aren't fully comfortable with.
Those that replace actual knowledge with Wikipedia "consults" are doing their patients a major disservice. And some people do rely more on pre-set differential lists (whether in a student/residency manual or online resource) and other people's concept maps/algorithms rather than doing actual thinking. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but taking the thought out of patient care usually isn't a good thing.
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