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Thoughts on Ferguson - A Black Pastor's Perspective
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:58 am
From a post on the OT;
LINK
quote:
The Plight of Black Men
Rest assured, I do believe there are systemic issues plaguing black men. These issues are violence, criminality, and immorality, to name a few. And all of these issues are rooted in and connected to the epidemic of fatherlessness. Any truly gospel-centered response to the plight of black men must address these issues first and foremost. It does no good to change the way white police officers respond to black men if we don’t first address the fact that these men’s fathers have not responded to them appropriately.
There is indeed an epidemic of violence against black men. However, that violence, more often than not, occurs at the hands of other black men. In fact, black men are several times more likely to be murdered at the hands of another black man than they are to be killed by the police. For instance, in the FBI homicide stats from 2012, there were 2,648 blacks murdered. Of those, 2,412 were murdered by members of their own ethnic group. Thus, if I am going to speak out about anything, it will be black-on-black crime; not blue-on-black. I want to apply the gospel and its implications in a way that addresses the real issue. If a few black men being killed by cops requires a national “dialogue,” what in the world does the overwhelming number of black-on-black murders require? If the police do not see black men through the proper gospel-centered, image-of-God lens, what does the black-on-black murder rate say about the way we see ourselves?
In addition to violence, black men are plagued with criminality. Low-income black communities like Ferguson know all too well that black criminals preying on their neighbors makes life almost unlivable. Growing up in South Central Los Angeles, I know all too well what it’s like to have bars on the windows and doors for fear that thugs will break in to steal or kill. I remember being robbed at gunpoint on my way home from the store one day. It was one of the most frightening and disheartening events of my life. The fear, helplessness, and anger I felt stayed with me for years. And it taught me an unfortunate lesson: the greatest threat to me was other black men.
The underlying malady that gives rise to all the rest of these epidemics is immorality and fatherlessness. We know that fatherlessness is the number one indicator of future violence, dropout rates, out-of-wedlock births, and future incarceration. And in the black community, more than 70 percent of all children are born out of wedlock! Fatherlessness is the bane of the black community.
Voddie Baucham is the pastor of preaching at Grace Family Baptist Church in Spring, Texas.
LINK
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 am to Wolfhound45
I read one this morning from Tony Evans, another prominent black minister. Made all the sense in the world to me. Why blacks don't follow men like these, Dr Carson, and others absolutely blow my mind.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:03 am to bamarep
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Why blacks don't follow men like these
Because it is easier to feel sorry for yourself
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:20 am to bamarep
Because they're boring. Even whites follow people like Miley Cyrus, The Jersey Shore, and Kendrick Lamar.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:54 am to Wolfhound45
That was a long article, and I read it all. Very good stuff. Regardless of any counter to this guy's philosophy, the likelihood of his kids being successful members of society is so much greater than those with parents who show self-pity, anger, and blame to uncontrollable external factors and people.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:07 am to GRTiger
Now that pastor is a real man. That's a leader.
Unfortunately his message will fall upon deaf ears.
Unfortunately his message will fall upon deaf ears.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:11 am to Wolfhound45
I guess the million dollar question is, how do you fix this problem? How does that 70% statistic turn into 57%, then 48%, then 35%, etc?
At least someone with some standing in the black community is talking about a big part of the problem. The solution won't be easy, because it has become a systemic problem that can't be easily changed.
There has to be a way out, though. It wasn't always like this, even during much worse times for black people, so it can't be impossible.
At least someone with some standing in the black community is talking about a big part of the problem. The solution won't be easy, because it has become a systemic problem that can't be easily changed.
There has to be a way out, though. It wasn't always like this, even during much worse times for black people, so it can't be impossible.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:16 am to mizzoukills
quote:I think it does because there is a large, vocal element whose identity and self-interest require a victim mentality to be firmly rooted in the Black community. Coupled with a deeply-seated ability to tolerate Black on Black violence, children shot in drive-bys, gang violence, shattered families, drug abuse rampant in neighborhoods, and so forth. Let a violent crime happen at the street corner where people are milling all around, and later ask. No one will have seen a thing. This is that community giving its tacit approval to things like these continuing. It is no White person's fault. The blame rests squarely on those peoples' silence. Any such victimization is self-induced. No one is willing to be accountable or to hold others accountable - much easier to blame the rich, the White, the po-pos, etc. than to deal with the dirt swept continually under the collective Black rug by Black people and their White liberal slave master.
message will fall upon deaf ears.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:17 am to KCT
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KCT
Start with small financial incentives to turn around the culture.
Do away with:
-extra money per kid on welfare (cap it at 2)
-incentivize good grades and good attendance at school with extra money
-limit disability and welfare (think TVA or other gov't programs that made you work for the money)
-invest in the inner city infrastructure
-revamp the War on Drugs and the multitude of awful policies
-begin charter schools in the "country" (outside of the maladaptive inner city environment) and get the kids out of the home
"There are no problems. Only solutions."-Lennon (not V.I.)
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:19 am to bamarep
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Why blacks don't follow men like these, Dr Carson, and others absolutely blow my mind.
Some do, but not enough. The one's that don't - its easier to follow the left where personal responsibility is not required.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:21 am to Wolfhound45
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more than 70 percent of all children are born out of wedlock
The problem is obvious, but its not easy to fix. You're going on multiple generations that havent had a father figure, so they wouldnt know how to be a father even if they wanted to.
And its not just blacks, these numbers are creeping up in whites as well. Sad.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:52 am to Zipfer2022
This is not what they want to hear. It is much easier to blame anyone else.
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