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re: Saban QB quote from 2003

Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:38 am to
Posted by TangipahoaTiger
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:38 am to
but, but, but.... we have a quality quarterback making quality, quality decisions with the football. We will attempt to address why we are not as successful against our very quality opponents as we'd like to be very soon.


Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:42 am to
Of course the coach will refer to his QB (or any other athlete on the team) as a "quality QB." What do you want him to say about his QB with 2 games left?
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10186 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:45 am to
quote:

In 2003, Matt Mauck led the SEC in passing efficiency. He passed for 2,825 yards, 28 TD passes, with 14 interceptions. He had two 300 yard passing games. With one regular season game left, Anhony Jennings has passed for 1,353 yds and 9 TD'S with 6 interceptions. Nick Saban would not approve.


Jimbo and Mauck delivered the ball to the skill players regularly and consistently. I would bet that Mauck's passing yards are 50-75% after the catch.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Nick Saban would not approve.
AJ would not play (for him).
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:53 am to
Everything is related…..
"Jimbo and Mauck delivered the ball to the skill players regularly and consistently." depends on:
1. receivers running good routes (i.e. coaching, recruiting, retention, development)
2. OL blockig (i.e. coaching, recruiting, retention, development)
3. RB's running routes/blocking/etc. (i.e. coaching, recruiting, retention, development)
4. and the list goes on and on and on……..
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:45 pm to
He would if that was all he had.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:50 pm to
There is a difference between being a competent and effective QB, which is what Saban was referring to as compared to a QB that's play adversely affects his team's chances, which is what has happened.

Actually, as much as LSU fans want to harp on Harris' game against Auburn, LSU wasn't winning that game with competent QB play because their defense was atrocious that day.

Fast forward to Arkansas and the QB and offense actually DID cost LSU the game despite good defensive play. Arkansas had only 17 points all game, while Auburn had 24 in the first quarter 15:33 of the game.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:54 pm to
by that he meant that we don't need 350 yds and 4 td passes.

He certainly didn't have JJ and Jennings-esque play in mind.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260664 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:59 pm to
quote:


Remember what Saban said about our QB in 2003, "We don't need him to win the game, we just need him to NOT lose the game." I understand the QB position can be the most important position on the field (if the coaches want it that way), but I think we sometimes make too much of the QB position. Yes, it would be great to have an amazing NFL caliber athlete at every position, but that is probably not realistic.


Don't need an NFL caliber QB, but this year is unacceptable.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:02 pm to
AJ should not be held responsible for bad play calling, bad scheme, etc. These things would make any QB look bad.
Posted by TIGERforLIFEinTX
Kingwood, TX
Member since Jul 2007
524 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:15 pm to
Unfortunately we are still searching for that QB...
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

AJ should not be held responsible for bad play calling, bad scheme, etc. These things would make any QB look bad.


One can argue that AJ's limitations are the reason for the poor scheme and play calling. You can watch that video of practice in which the QBs were throwing slants to the receivers. Jennings had the hardest time completing those slants, and you can hear Coach Cameron yelling something to the tune of, "If you don't get it together, we're going to be running a 1950s offense this season!" Low and behold... I'm not saying this to exonerate Cam/Miles as I think they should scheme around what we currently have at QB.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5332 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:32 pm to
the SEC has changed since 2003. I bet Saban feels different: hence why he hired Kiffin as his OC.

Cameron was a great hire, but CLM has to let go and open up the playbook or we can expect 10-2, 9-3 vs 12-0 or 11-1 seasons.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10173 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Remember what Saban said about our QB in 2003, "We don't need him to win the game, we just need him to NOT lose the game." I understand the QB position can be the most important position on the field (if the coaches want it that way), but I think we sometimes make too much of the QB position. Yes, it would be great to have an amazing NFL caliber athlete at every position, but that is probably not realistic.


This is probably true, but to think you can win anything prominent when your qb is throwing for 87 yds in a game with 22 qb rating is probably not realistic either.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7000 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

In 2003, Matt Mauck led the SEC in passing efficiency. He passed for 2,825 yards, 28 TD passes, with 14 interceptions. He had two 300 yard passing games. With one regular season game left, Anhony Jennings has passed for 1,353 yds and 9 TD'S with 6 interceptions. Nick Saban would not approve.


Matt Mauck also had Devey Henderson and Michael Clayton !
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30304 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:58 pm to
Stewpid
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:57 pm to
What are you trying to say?
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